From: Chris Mason <chris.mason-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Steve French <smfrench-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david-FqsqvQoI3Ljby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org>,
linux-cifs <linux-cifs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
linux-fsdevel
<linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
Mingming Cao <mcao-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Jeff Layton <jlayton-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: stable page writes: wait_on_page_writeback and packet signing
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 04:26:31 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1299717690-sup-2613@think> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikK8MOm-m9XsOA4YGRe=E9bJTDh4iEYXtZumNmv-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
Excerpts from Steve French's message of 2011-03-09 17:13:06 -0500:
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Chris Mason <chris.mason-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > Excerpts from Dave Chinner's message of 2011-03-09 16:51:48 -0500:
> >> On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 01:44:24PM -0600, Steve French wrote:
> >> > Have alternative approaches, other than using wait_on_page_writeback,
> >> > been considered for solving the stable page write problem in similar
> >> > cases (since only about 1 out of 5 linux file systems uses this call
> >> > today).
> >>
> >> I think that is incorrect. write_cache_pages() does:
> >>
> >> 929 lock_page(page);
> >> .....
> >> 950 if (PageWriteback(page)) {
> >> 951 if (wbc->sync_mode != WB_SYNC_NONE)
> >> 952 wait_on_page_writeback(page);
> >> 953 else
> >> 954 goto continue_unlock;
> >> 955 }
> >> 956
> >> 957 BUG_ON(PageWriteback(page));
> >> 958 if (!clear_page_dirty_for_io(page))
> >> 959 goto continue_unlock;
> >> 960
> >> 961 trace_wbc_writepage(wbc, mapping->backing_dev_info);
> >> 962 ret = (*writepage)(page, wbc, data);
> >>
> >> so every filesystem using the generic_writepages code already does
> >> this check and wait before .writepage is called. Hence only the
> >> filesystems that do not use generic_writepages() or
> >> mpage_writepages() need a specific check, and that means most
> >> filesystems are actually waiting on writeback pages correctly.
> >
> > But checking here just means we don't start writeback on a page that is
> > writeback, which is a good idea but not really related to stable pages?
> >
> > stable pages means we don't let mmap'd pages or file_write muck around
> > with the pages while they are in writeback, so we need to wait in
> > file_write and page_mkwrite.
>
> Isn't the file_write case covered by the i_mutex as
> Documentation/filesystems/Locking implies (for write_begin/write_end).
>
Does cifs take i_mutex before writepage? The disk based filesystems
don't. So, i_mutex protects file_write from other procs jumping into
file_write, but it doesn't protect writeback from file_write jumping in
and changing the pages while they are being sent to storage (or over the
wire).
Basically the model needs to be:
file_write:
lock the page
wait on page writeback
< new writeback cannot start because of the page lock >
copy_from_user
unlock the page
We also use page_mkwrite to get notified when userland wants to change
some page it has given to mmap. That needs to wait on page writeback as
well.
-chris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-10 12:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-09 19:44 stable page writes: wait_on_page_writeback and packet signing Steve French
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2011-03-09 21:51 ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-09 21:58 ` Chris Mason
2011-03-09 22:13 ` Steve French
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2011-03-10 12:26 ` Chris Mason [this message]
2011-03-10 13:16 ` Jeff Layton
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2011-03-10 13:32 ` Chris Mason
2011-03-10 13:47 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20110310084724.658fe5d7-xSBYVWDuneFaJnirhKH9O4GKTjYczspe@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-10 13:58 ` Chris Mason
2011-03-11 12:11 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20110311071143.01b407b6-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-11 12:56 ` Chris Mason
2011-03-11 13:42 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20110311084221.4ac6bd11-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-11 16:00 ` Chris Mason
2011-03-09 23:46 ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-09 22:01 ` Steve French
2011-03-09 23:54 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20110309185427.7858c29b-4QP7MXygkU+dMjc06nkz3ljfA9RmPOcC@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-10 0:33 ` Steve French
[not found] ` <AANLkTi=pXHjE6tNMm0_nO=Cn3nGH8oZ6Xhm1STh8x1Xe-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-10 1:30 ` Jeff Layton
2011-03-10 13:53 ` Steve French
[not found] ` <20110309203044.4fd0498e-4QP7MXygkU+dMjc06nkz3ljfA9RmPOcC@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-11 11:53 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <AANLkTinDmqah6pQnHugoVxh-gDq+6+MDMuh-TyVAQ7LP-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-10 1:41 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <1299721264.2976.3.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-10 7:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-03-10 13:44 ` Steve French
2011-03-09 23:45 ` Jeff Layton
2011-03-10 2:12 ` Jeff Layton
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