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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Cc: Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho@redhat.com>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernl.org, cluster-devel@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	David Safford <safford@watson.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@nokia.com>,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@us.ibm.com>,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 13/21] evm: add evm_inode_post_init call in gfs2
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 20:55:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1305766540.3304.44.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DD17A15.2060102@schaufler-ca.com>

On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 12:25 -0700, Casey Schaufler wrote: 
> On 5/16/2011 11:48 AM, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> > On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 11:23 -0700, Casey Schaufler wrote:

> >> There is a very real possibility that multiple concurrent LSMs will
> >> be supported before too long. Smack already uses multiple attributes
> >> (SMACK64, SMACK64EXEC) on a file. Getting all the attributes in a
> >> single call could result in an interface that requires parsing a
> >> string argument, and we all know how popular those are. Introducing
> >> an interface that we know isn't going to accommodate this upcoming
> >> direction does not seem prudent.
> > I would think that Smack would benefit from Steven's suggestion of
> > returning an array of xattrs. Without his suggestion, I'm not sure how
> > you are, or planning on, initializing multiple xattrs from a single LSM,
> > unless of course you're not using security_inode_init_security().
> 
> The good news is that Smack has one required attribute. The others
> are for special purposes and will usually be absent. It is easy to
> imagine an LSM that always uses multiple attributes on a given file.
> 
> Yes, the array of xattr structures makes sense for any one LSM,
> but there still needs to be the potential for multiple calls for
> the multiple LSM case. I can't see that going away without a radical
> LSM restructuring.
> 
> > Multiple LSMs calling security_inode_init_security() will be an issue
> > for EVM, as EVM assumes there is a single LSM xattr on which to base the
> > initial hmac.
> 
> That is far from the biggest issue with multiple LSMs, but is definitely
> something to worry about.

Ok. After thinking about this a bit more, moving
evm_inode_init_security() into security_inode_init_security() only works
for the single LSM and EVM case, but not for the multiple LSMs and EVM
case, as the 'stacker' would call each LSM's
security_inode_iint_security().  Having the 'stacker' return an array of
xattrs would make sense and, at the same time, resolve the EVM issue. In
evm_inode_post_init_security(), EVM could then walk the list of xattrs.

Mimi

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-19  0:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-16 14:44 [PATCH v5 00/21] EVM Mimi Zohar
2011-05-16 14:44 ` [PATCH v5 01/21] integrity: move ima inode integrity data management Mimi Zohar
2011-05-19  2:06   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-05-19 22:45     ` Mimi Zohar
2011-05-16 14:44 ` [PATCH v5 02/21] xattr: define vfs_getxattr_alloc and vfs_xattr_cmp Mimi Zohar
2011-05-19  2:11   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-05-16 14:44 ` [PATCH v5 03/21] evm: re-release Mimi Zohar
2011-05-19  6:05   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-05-19 22:49     ` Mimi Zohar
2011-05-20 11:12       ` Harald Hoyer
2011-05-20 11:21         ` Mimi Zohar
2011-05-19 21:37   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-05-20 12:29     ` Mimi Zohar
2011-05-20 13:43       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-05-16 14:44 ` [PATCH v5 04/21] evm: add support for different security.evm data types Mimi Zohar
2011-05-16 14:44 ` [PATCH v5 05/21] ima: move ima_file_free before releasing the file Mimi Zohar
2011-05-19 22:06   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-05-20  0:55     ` Mimi Zohar
2011-05-20 13:40       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-05-20 14:34         ` Mimi Zohar
2011-05-20 15:25           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-05-16 14:45 ` [PATCH v5 06/21] security: imbed evm calls in security hooks Mimi Zohar
2011-05-19 22:13   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-05-16 14:45 ` [PATCH v5 07/21] evm: evm_inode_post_removexattr Mimi Zohar
2011-05-16 14:45 ` [PATCH v5 08/21] evm: imbed evm_inode_post_setattr Mimi Zohar
2011-05-16 14:45 ` [PATCH v5 09/21] evm: evm_inode_post_init Mimi Zohar
2011-05-16 14:45 ` [PATCH v5 10/21] fs: add evm_inode_post_init calls Mimi Zohar
2011-05-16 14:45 ` [PATCH v5 11/21] evm: crypto hash replaced by shash Mimi Zohar
2011-05-16 14:45 ` [PATCH v5 12/21] evm: add evm_inode_post_init call in btrfs Mimi Zohar
2011-05-16 14:45 ` [PATCH v5 13/21] evm: add evm_inode_post_init call in gfs2 Mimi Zohar
2011-05-16 15:30   ` Steven Whitehouse
2011-05-16 15:50     ` Mimi Zohar
2011-05-16 16:14       ` Steven Whitehouse
2011-05-16 16:35         ` Mimi Zohar
2011-05-16 17:50           ` Mimi Zohar
2011-05-16 17:57             ` Steven Whitehouse
2011-05-16 18:20               ` Mimi Zohar
2011-05-16 18:23               ` Casey Schaufler
2011-05-16 18:48                 ` Mimi Zohar
2011-05-16 19:25                   ` Casey Schaufler
2011-05-19  0:55                     ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2011-05-19  9:25                       ` Steven Whitehouse
2011-05-16 14:45 ` [PATCH v5 14/21] evm: add evm_inode_post_init call in jffs2 Mimi Zohar
2011-05-16 14:45 ` [PATCH v5 15/21] evm: add evm_inode_post_init call in jfs Mimi Zohar
2011-05-16 14:45 ` [PATCH v5 16/21] evm: add evm_inode_post_init call in xfs Mimi Zohar
2011-05-16 14:45 ` [PATCH v5 17/21] evm: additional parameter to pass integrity cache entry 'iint' Mimi Zohar
2011-05-16 14:45 ` [PATCH v5 18/21] evm: evm_verify_hmac must not return INTEGRITY_UNKNOWN Mimi Zohar
2011-05-16 14:45 ` [PATCH v5 19/21] evm: replace hmac_status with evm_status Mimi Zohar
2011-05-16 14:45 ` [PATCH v5 20/21] evm: permit only valid security.evm xattrs to be updated Mimi Zohar
2011-05-16 14:45 ` [PATCH v5 21/21] evm: add evm_inode_setattr to prevent updating an invalid security.evm Mimi Zohar
2011-05-19  0:25 ` [PATCH v5 00/21] EVM Andrew Morton
2011-05-19  1:51   ` Mimi Zohar
2011-05-20  0:51     ` James Morris
2011-05-20  1:07       ` Mimi Zohar
2011-05-20 13:06         ` David Safford
2011-05-20 14:13       ` Casey Schaufler
2011-05-26  6:08   ` Pavel Machek
2011-05-26 16:34     ` Casey Schaufler
2011-05-26 18:11       ` David Safford
2011-05-26 18:38         ` Pavel Machek
2011-05-26 19:30           ` Casey Schaufler
2011-05-26 20:02             ` Pavel Machek
2011-05-26 20:32               ` Casey Schaufler
2011-05-26 19:49           ` Mimi Zohar
2011-05-26 20:17             ` Pavel Machek
2011-05-27 17:45               ` David Safford
2011-05-29  6:58                 ` Pavel Machek
2011-05-31 12:05                   ` Mimi Zohar
2011-05-31 13:40                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-06-01 22:11                   ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2011-05-20 18:50 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-05-23 22:09   ` Mimi Zohar

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