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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Colin King <colin.king@canonical.com>,
	Raghavendra D Prabhu <raghu.prabhu13@gmail.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	stable <stable@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm: vmscan: Correctly check if reclaimer should schedule during shrink_slab
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 00:07:36 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1306181256.2442.4.camel@mulgrave.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110523130303.6b7dad1c.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 13:03 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 23 May 2011 10:53:55 +0100
> Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de> wrote:
> 
> > It has been reported on some laptops that kswapd is consuming large
> > amounts of CPU and not being scheduled when SLUB is enabled during
> > large amounts of file copying. It is expected that this is due to
> > kswapd missing every cond_resched() point because;
> > 
> > shrink_page_list() calls cond_resched() if inactive pages were isolated
> >         which in turn may not happen if all_unreclaimable is set in
> >         shrink_zones(). If for whatver reason, all_unreclaimable is
> >         set on all zones, we can miss calling cond_resched().
> > 
> > balance_pgdat() only calls cond_resched if the zones are not
> >         balanced. For a high-order allocation that is balanced, it
> >         checks order-0 again. During that window, order-0 might have
> >         become unbalanced so it loops again for order-0 and returns
> >         that it was reclaiming for order-0 to kswapd(). It can then
> >         find that a caller has rewoken kswapd for a high-order and
> >         re-enters balance_pgdat() without ever calling cond_resched().
> > 
> > shrink_slab only calls cond_resched() if we are reclaiming slab
> > 	pages. If there are a large number of direct reclaimers, the
> > 	shrinker_rwsem can be contended and prevent kswapd calling
> > 	cond_resched().
> > 
> > This patch modifies the shrink_slab() case. If the semaphore is
> > contended, the caller will still check cond_resched(). After each
> > successful call into a shrinker, the check for cond_resched() remains
> > in case one shrinker is particularly slow.
> 
> So CONFIG_PREEMPT=y kernels don't exhibit this problem?

Yes, they do.  They just don't hang on my sandybridge system in the same
way than non-PREEMPT kernels do.  I'm still sure it's got something to
do with rescheduling kswapd onto a different CPU ...

> I'm still unconvinced that we know what's going on here.  What's kswapd
> *doing* with all those cycles?  And if kswapd is now scheduling away,
> who is doing that work instead?  Direct reclaim?

Still in the dark about this one, too.

James


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  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-23 20:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-23  9:53 [PATCH 0/2] Eliminate hangs when using frequent high-order allocations V4 Mel Gorman
2011-05-23  9:53 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: vmscan: Correct use of pgdat_balanced in sleeping_prematurely Mel Gorman
2011-05-23 15:46   ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-23  9:53 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: vmscan: Correctly check if reclaimer should schedule during shrink_slab Mel Gorman
2011-05-23 20:03   ` Andrew Morton
2011-05-23 20:07     ` James Bottomley [this message]
2011-05-24  9:21       ` Mel Gorman

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