From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: "linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
Andrea Righi <arighi@develer.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/18] writeback: dirty position control - bdi reserve area
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 16:50:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1317221435.24040.39.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110928140205.GA26617@localhost>
On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 22:02 +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
/me attempts to swap back neurons related to writeback
> After lots of experiments, I end up with this bdi reserve point
>
> + x_intercept = bdi_thresh / 2 + MIN_WRITEBACK_PAGES;
>
> together with this chunk to avoid a bdi stuck in bdi_thresh=0 state:
>
> @@ -590,6 +590,7 @@ static unsigned long bdi_position_ratio(
> */
> if (unlikely(bdi_thresh > thresh))
> bdi_thresh = thresh;
> + bdi_thresh = max(bdi_thresh, (limit - dirty) / 8);
> /*
> * scale global setpoint to bdi's:
> * bdi_setpoint = setpoint * bdi_thresh / thresh
So you cap bdi_thresh at a minimum of (limit-dirty)/8 which can be
pretty close to 0 if we have a spike in dirty or a negative spike in
writeout bandwidth (sudden seeks or whatnot).
> The above changes are good enough to keep reasonable amount of bdi
> dirty pages, so the bdi underrun flag ("[PATCH 11/18] block: add bdi
> flag to indicate risk of io queue underrun") is dropped.
That sounds like goodness ;-)
> I also tried various bdi freerun patches, however the results are not
> satisfactory. Basically the bdi reserve area approach (this patch)
> yields noticeably more smooth/resilient behavior than the
> freerun/underrun approaches. I noticed that the bdi underrun flag
> could lead to sudden surge of dirty pages (especially if not
> safeguarded by the dirty_exceeded condition) in the very small
> window..
OK, so let me try and parse this magic:
+ x_intercept = bdi_thresh / 2 + MIN_WRITEBACK_PAGES;
+ if (bdi_dirty < x_intercept) {
+ if (bdi_dirty > x_intercept / 8) {
+ pos_ratio *= x_intercept;
+ do_div(pos_ratio, bdi_dirty);
+ } else
+ pos_ratio *= 8;
+ }
So we set our target some place north of MIN_WRITEBACK_PAGES: if we're
short we add a factor of: x_intercept/bdi_dirty.
Now, since bdi_dirty < x_intercept, this is > 1 and thus we promote more
dirties.
Additionally we don't let the factor get larger than 8 to avoid silly
large fluctuations (8 already seems quite generous to me).
Now I guess the only problem is when nr_bdi * MIN_WRITEBACK_PAGES ~
limit, at which point things go pear shaped.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-28 14:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-04 1:53 [PATCH 00/18] IO-less dirty throttling v11 Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 01/18] writeback: account per-bdi accumulated dirtied pages Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 02/18] writeback: dirty position control Wu Fengguang
2011-09-05 15:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 2:10 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-05 15:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 2:43 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 18:20 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-09-08 2:53 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-12 5:44 ` Nai Xia
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 03/18] writeback: dirty rate control Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29 11:57 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 04/18] writeback: stabilize bdi->dirty_ratelimit Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 05/18] writeback: per task dirty rate limit Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 15:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-06 23:27 ` Jan Kara
2011-09-06 23:34 ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07 7:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 1:04 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 7:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 11:00 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 06/18] writeback: IO-less balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 12:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 2:46 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 07/18] writeback: dirty ratelimit - think time compensation Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 08/18] writeback: trace dirty_ratelimit Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 09/18] writeback: trace balance_dirty_pages Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 10/18] writeback: dirty position control - bdi reserve area Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 14:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 12:31 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-12 10:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-18 14:17 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-18 14:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-18 14:47 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-28 14:02 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-28 14:50 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2011-09-29 3:32 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29 8:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-29 11:05 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-29 12:15 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 11/18] block: add bdi flag to indicate risk of io queue underrun Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 14:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 2:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 7:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 12/18] writeback: balanced_rate cannot exceed write bandwidth Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 13/18] writeback: limit max dirty pause time Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 14:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 2:35 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-12 10:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-18 14:23 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 14/18] writeback: control " Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 2:02 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-12 10:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 15/18] writeback: charge leaked page dirties to active tasks Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 16:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 9:06 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 0:17 ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07 9:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 16/18] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on sub-page writes Wu Fengguang
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 17/18] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on redirty Wu Fengguang
2011-09-06 16:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 0:22 ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07 1:18 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 6:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-07 8:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-07 16:42 ` Jan Kara
2011-09-07 16:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-08 8:51 ` Steven Whitehouse
2011-09-04 1:53 ` [PATCH 18/18] btrfs: fix dirtied pages accounting on sub-page writes Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 13:32 ` [PATCH 00/18] IO-less dirty throttling v11 Wu Fengguang
2011-09-07 19:14 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-09-28 14:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-29 4:11 ` Wu Fengguang
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