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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	paulmck <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on sub-page writes
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 14:53:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1321969999.14799.10.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111122134155.GA23599@localhost>

On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 21:41 +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 09:07:50PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 08:57:42PM +0800, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 13:21 +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > > > +             __get_cpu_var(bdp_ratelimits)++;
> > > >   I think you need preempt_disable() and preempt_enable() pair around
> > > > __get_cpu_var(). Otherwise a process could get rescheduled in the middle of
> > > > read-modify-write cycle... 
> > > 
> > > there's of course the this_cpu_inc(bdp_ratelimits); thing.
> > > 
> > > On x86 that'll turn into a single insn, on others it will add the
> > > required preempt_disable/enable bits.
> > 
> > It's good to know that. But what if we don't really care which CPU
> > data it's increasing, and can accept losing some increases due to the
> > resulted race condition?
> 
> I just added a comment for it, hope it helps :)
> 
>                 /*
>                  * This is racy, however bdp_ratelimits merely serves as a
>                  * gross safeguard. We don't really care the exact CPU it's
>                  * charging to and the resulted inaccuracy is acceptable.
>                  */
>                 __get_cpu_var(bdp_ratelimits)++;

Thing is, I'm not sure how much update you can effectively wreck by
interleaving the RmW cycles of two CPUs like this.

Simply loosing a few increments would be fine, but what are the
practical implications of actually relying on this behaviour and how do
various architectures cope.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-22 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-21 13:03 [PATCH 0/5] dirty throttling bits for 3.3 Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 13:03 ` [PATCH 1/5] writeback: balanced_rate cannot exceed write bandwidth Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 22:50   ` Jan Kara
2011-11-22  6:41     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-22 21:04       ` Jan Kara
2011-11-23 13:17         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 13:03 ` [PATCH 2/5] writeback: charge leaked page dirties to active tasks Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 21:49   ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-21 23:46     ` Jan Kara
2011-11-22 13:35     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 13:03 ` [PATCH 3/5] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on sub-page writes Wu Fengguang
2011-11-22  0:11   ` Jan Kara
2011-11-22  9:21     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-22 12:21       ` Jan Kara
2011-11-22 12:30         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-22 12:48           ` Jan Kara
2011-11-22 13:02             ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-22 12:57         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-22 13:07           ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-22 13:41             ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-22 13:53               ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2011-11-22 14:11                 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-28 13:51         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 13:03 ` [PATCH 4/5] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on redirty Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 21:51   ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-22 13:59     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-11-21 13:03 ` [PATCH 5/5] writeback: dirty ratelimit - think time compensation Wu Fengguang
2011-11-23 12:44 ` [PATCH 0/5] dirty throttling bits for 3.3 Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-28 13:56   ` Wu Fengguang

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