From: Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho@redhat.com>
To: "Loke, Chetan" <Chetan.Loke@netscout.com>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>,
Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@gmail.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
neilb@suse.de, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
dm-devel@redhat.com, Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
"Darrick J.Wong" <djwong@us.ibm.com>
Subject: RE: [Lsf-pc] [dm-devel] [LSF/MM TOPIC] a few storage topics
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:40:23 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1327509623.2720.52.camel@menhir> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D3F292ADF945FB49B35E96C94C2061B915A638A6@nsmail.netscout.com>
Hi,
On Wed, 2012-01-25 at 11:22 -0500, Loke, Chetan wrote:
> > If the reason for not setting a larger readahead value is just that it
> > might increase memory pressure and thus decrease performance, is it
> > possible to use a suitable metric from the VM in order to set the value
> > automatically according to circumstances?
> >
>
> How about tracking heuristics for 'read-hits from previous read-aheads'? If the hits are in acceptable range(user-configurable knob?) then keep seeking else back-off a little on the read-ahead?
>
> > Steve.
>
> Chetan Loke
I'd been wondering about something similar to that. The basic scheme
would be:
- Set a page flag when readahead is performed
- Clear the flag when the page is read (or on page fault for mmap)
(i.e. when it is first used after readahead)
Then when the VM scans for pages to eject from cache, check the flag and
keep an exponential average (probably on a per-cpu basis) of the rate at
which such flagged pages are ejected. That number can then be used to
reduce the max readahead value.
The questions are whether this would provide a fast enough reduction in
readahead size to avoid problems? and whether the extra complication is
worth it compared with using an overall metric for memory pressure?
There may well be better solutions though,
Steve.
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2012-01-17 20:06 ` [LSF/MM TOPIC] a few storage topics Mike Snitzer
2012-01-17 21:36 ` [Lsf-pc] " Jan Kara
2012-01-18 22:58 ` Darrick J. Wong
2012-01-18 23:22 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-18 23:42 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-01-19 9:46 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-19 15:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-19 20:52 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-19 21:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-22 11:31 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-01-23 16:30 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-22 12:21 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-01-23 16:18 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-23 17:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-23 18:28 ` Jeff Moyer
2012-01-23 18:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-23 19:19 ` Jeff Moyer
2012-01-24 15:15 ` Chris Mason
2012-01-24 16:56 ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2012-01-24 17:01 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-01-24 17:06 ` [Lsf-pc] [dm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-24 17:08 ` Chris Mason
2012-01-24 17:08 ` [Lsf-pc] " Andreas Dilger
2012-01-24 18:05 ` [dm-devel] " Jeff Moyer
2012-01-24 18:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-01-24 19:07 ` Chris Mason
2012-01-24 19:14 ` Jeff Moyer
2012-01-24 20:09 ` [Lsf-pc] [dm-devel] " Jan Kara
2012-01-24 20:13 ` [Lsf-pc] " Jeff Moyer
2012-01-24 20:39 ` [Lsf-pc] [dm-devel] " Jan Kara
2012-01-24 20:59 ` Jeff Moyer
2012-01-24 21:08 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-25 3:29 ` Wu Fengguang
2012-01-25 6:15 ` [Lsf-pc] " Andreas Dilger
2012-01-25 6:35 ` [Lsf-pc] [dm-devel] " Wu Fengguang
2012-01-25 14:00 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-26 12:29 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-01-27 17:03 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-01-26 16:25 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-01-26 20:37 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-26 22:34 ` Dave Chinner
2012-01-27 3:27 ` Wu Fengguang
2012-01-27 5:25 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-01-27 7:53 ` Wu Fengguang
2012-01-25 14:33 ` Steven Whitehouse
2012-01-25 14:45 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-25 16:22 ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-25 16:40 ` Steven Whitehouse [this message]
2012-01-25 17:08 ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-25 17:32 ` James Bottomley
2012-01-25 18:28 ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-25 18:37 ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-25 18:37 ` James Bottomley
2012-01-25 20:06 ` Chris Mason
2012-01-25 22:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-25 22:58 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-26 8:59 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-01-26 16:40 ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-26 17:00 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-01-26 17:16 ` Loke, Chetan
2012-02-03 12:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2012-01-26 22:38 ` Dave Chinner
2012-01-26 16:17 ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-25 18:44 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-02-03 12:55 ` Wu Fengguang
2012-01-24 19:11 ` [dm-devel] [Lsf-pc] " Jeff Moyer
2012-01-26 22:31 ` Dave Chinner
2012-01-24 17:12 ` Jeff Moyer
2012-01-24 17:32 ` Chris Mason
2012-01-24 18:14 ` Jeff Moyer
2012-01-25 0:23 ` NeilBrown
2012-01-25 6:11 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-01-18 23:39 ` Dan Williams
2012-01-24 17:59 ` Martin K. Petersen
2012-01-24 19:48 ` Douglas Gilbert
2012-01-24 20:04 ` Martin K. Petersen
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