From: Colin Walters <walters@verbum.org>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, drepper@gmail.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nextfd(2)
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:10:12 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1333559412.10230.67.camel@lenny> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F7C777E.10608@gmail.com>
On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 09:31 -0700, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> Ideally possible. but practically impossible. 2) people don't use a their
> own malloc. they only uses open sources alternative malloc. And, I think
> you have too narrowing concern. Even though malloc people adds a workaround,
> the standard inhibit to use it
What do you mean? If as hpa says, the maintainer of e.g. google
tcmalloc added a call to pthread_atfork(), then code which uses
opendir() would start working.
> and people may continue to use more dangerous
> RLIM_NOFILE loop. 1) I haven't seen _practical_ userland software uses such
> linux internal hacking. Almost all major software can run on multiple OSs.
Except that if you're using /proc/self/fd, you're already relying on
Linux-specific functionality. So it's not burdensome to use "struct
linux_dirent" and O_DIRECTORY either.
In GLib we're presently doing the regular /proc+opendir() under
#ifdef __linux__:
http://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/tree/glib/gspawn.c#n932
Now I'd happily switch to hpa's fdwalk() implementation if I was aware
of someone using glib in combination with an alternative malloc hitting
this problem.
Basically I think hpa is right here, and it's not really worth adding
a new system call.
The thing is, even if it were added today, since we need to run on old
kernels, we'd have to carry the code to use the /proc trick
approximately forever. And in the end all nextfd() would accomplish
would be a *third* case in the already messy ifdefs/fallbacks
in the various implementations of process spawning.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-04-04 17:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-04-01 12:57 [PATCH] nextfd(2) Alexey Dobriyan
2012-04-01 13:58 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-04-01 21:30 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-04-02 0:09 ` Alan Cox
2012-04-02 8:38 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-04-02 9:26 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-04-01 15:43 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-01 21:31 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-04-01 21:36 ` Alan Cox
2012-04-01 17:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-01 18:28 ` Valentin Nechayev
2012-04-01 21:33 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-04-01 19:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-04-01 21:35 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-04-01 22:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-04 12:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-04-01 22:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-01 22:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-02 0:08 ` Alan Cox
2012-04-30 9:58 ` Valentin Nechayev
2012-04-02 1:19 ` Kyle Moffett
2012-04-02 1:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-02 11:37 ` Ulrich Drepper
2012-04-06 9:54 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-04-06 15:27 ` Colin Walters
2012-04-06 16:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-06 20:16 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-04-06 20:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-06 21:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-12 10:54 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-04-12 11:11 ` Alan Cox
2012-04-12 13:35 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-04-12 13:51 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-12 19:21 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-04-12 14:09 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-06 16:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-07 21:21 ` Ben Pfaff
2012-04-11 0:12 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-11 0:09 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-11 17:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-11 18:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-11 18:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-11 19:46 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-11 19:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-11 20:23 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-11 20:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-17 18:12 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-11 18:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-11 19:20 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-11 19:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-11 19:26 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-11 19:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-11 19:31 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-11 19:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-02 23:17 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-02 23:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-04 11:51 ` Ulrich Drepper
2012-04-04 16:38 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-04 16:43 ` Ulrich Drepper
2012-04-04 17:07 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-04 17:49 ` Ulrich Drepper
2012-04-04 18:08 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-04 16:31 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-04 17:10 ` Colin Walters [this message]
2012-04-04 17:25 ` Colin Walters
2012-04-04 23:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-04-04 18:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-03 19:21 ` Colin Walters
2012-04-04 3:01 ` Al Viro
2012-04-04 17:10 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
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