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From: Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [git pull] vfs and fs fixes
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:47:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1335372423.2730.2.camel@menhir> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120425162640.GA27193@quack.suse.cz>

Hi,

On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 18:26 +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Wed 25-04-12 07:29:30, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 12:23:12AM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > On Tue 24-04-12 15:52:36, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 01:15:17PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > > > On Wed 18-04-12 00:44:24, Al Viro wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 03:08:26PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > > > > > > Or I could increment that counter for all the conflicting operations and
> > > > > > > > rely on it instead of the i_mutex. ?I was trying to avoid adding
> > > > > > > > something like that (an inc, a dec, another error path) to every
> > > > > > > > operation. ?And hoping to avoid adding another field to struct inode.
> > > > > > > > Oh well.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > We could just say that we can do a double inode lock, but then
> > > > > > > standardize on the order. And the only sane order is comparing inode
> > > > > > > pointers, not inode numbers like ext4 apparently does.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > With a standard order, I don't think it would be at all wrong to just
> > > > > > > take the inode lock on rename.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > In principle, yes, but have you tried to grep for i_mutex?  Note that
> > > > > > we have *another* place where multiple ->i_mutex might be held on
> > > > > > non-directories (and unless I'm missing something, ext4 move_extent.c
> > > > > > stuff doesn't play well with it): quota writes.  Which can, AFAICS,
> > > > > > happen while write(2) is holding ->i_mutex on a regular file.  So
> > > > > > it's not _that_ easy - we want something like "and quota file is goes
> > > > > > last", since there we don't get to change the locking order - the first
> > > > > > ->i_mutex is taken too far outside.
> > > > >   Hum, I think I could just do away with quota file i_mutex being special.
> > > > > It's used for two purposes:
> > > > >   1) When quota is being turned on/off, we want to set/clear inode immutable
> > > > > flag, truncate page cache, etc. But we should be able push this locking
> > > > > outside of quota locks.
> > > > >   2) Inside filesystems when quota file is written to. Quota writes are
> > > > > serialized by quota code anyway and noone else has any bussiness with quota
> > > > > files (they are marked as immutable to avoid mistakes) so there i_mutex is
> > > > > not really needed.
> > > > 
> > > > Grepping for I_MUTEX_QUOTA shows hits in ext4, reiserfs, and gfs2.  The
> > > > former two are in code called from the quota code (through the
> > > > ->quota_write method).  But the gfs2 code appears to be called directly
> > > > from gfs2's write code.
> > >   Ah, gfs2 doesn't use generic quota code so whatever it does is it's own
> > > invention. For ext4 and reiserfs I could get rid of I_MUTEX_QUOTA as I
> > > wrote.
> > 
> > So, just the appended?
>   Yup, that's the easier part. We also use the mutex in quota code itself
> (fs/quota/dquot.c). That's somewhat harder to solve but still relatively
> simple.
> 
> > But unfortunately as long as that's left in gfs2 we're still stuck
> > trying to order quota files after other files when we take two
> > non-directory i_mutexes elsewhere.
>   As far as GFS2 is concerned, I'm not sure what it uses i_mutex in quota
> code for.  In any case it should be possible to replace that usage by some
> GFS2 internal lock to get rid of the last usage of I_MUTEX_QUOTA... Stephen?
> 
> 								Honza
> 
I'll have a look and see what we can do. I'm not sure off the top of my
head how easy it will be to eliminate this lock,

Steve.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-25 16:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-17  5:25 [git pull] vfs and fs fixes Al Viro
2012-04-17 15:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-17 16:22   ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-17 16:33     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-17 17:06       ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-17 17:59       ` Al Viro
2012-04-17 18:01   ` Al Viro
2012-04-17 18:28     ` Al Viro
2012-04-17 21:14       ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-17 22:08         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-17 23:44           ` Al Viro
2012-04-18  0:49             ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-18  0:56             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-18 21:52             ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-25 15:20               ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-25 15:22               ` [PATCH 1/5] vfs: fix outdated i_mutex_lock_class documentation bfields
2012-04-25 15:22               ` [PATCH 2/5] vfs: pull ext4's double-i_mutex-locking into common code bfields
2012-04-25 15:22               ` [PATCH 3/5] vfs: don't use PARENT/CHILD lock classes for non-directories bfields
2012-04-25 15:22               ` [PATCH 4/5] vfs: take i_mutex on renamed file bfields
2012-04-25 15:22               ` [PATCH 5/5] vfs: change nondirectory i_mutex ordering to fix quota deadlock bfields
2012-04-25 15:28                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-25 19:53                   ` Jan Kara
2012-04-25 19:58                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-20 11:15             ` [git pull] vfs and fs fixes Jan Kara
2012-04-24 19:52               ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-24 22:23                 ` Jan Kara
2012-04-25 11:29                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-25 16:26                     ` Jan Kara
2012-04-25 16:47                       ` Steven Whitehouse [this message]
2012-04-25 17:11                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-18  0:47           ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-19  3:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-04-19 14:50   ` Ted Ts'o
2012-04-24 17:40     ` Greg KH
2012-04-24 17:45       ` Al Viro
2012-04-24 17:59         ` Greg KH
2012-04-24 18:04           ` Al Viro
2012-04-24 20:37             ` Greg KH
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-09-18 22:52 Al Viro

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