From: "Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
To: Vyacheslav Dubeyko <slava@dubeyko.com>
Cc: Linux FS devel list <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux NFS list <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@redhat.com>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"Hin-Tak Leung" <htl10@users.sourceforge.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/5] nfsd + hfsplus: introduce generalized version of NFSv4 ACLs <-> POSIX ACLs mapping algorithms
Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 18:10:22 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1368123021.3282.117.camel@leira.trondhjem.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9841F318-DA62-4ACF-AA33-0474DBC2B107@dubeyko.com>
On Thu, 2013-05-09 at 21:34 +0400, Vyacheslav Dubeyko wrote:
> On May 9, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Myklebust, Trond wrote:
>
> [snip]
> >
> > How does this make sense? There is no lossless mapping of NFSv4 acls
> > into POSIX acls; the latter doesn't have any equivalent of the DENY aces
> > so you cannot represent the full set of acls that can be set using MacOS
> > on the same filesystem.
> >
> > Shouldn't you rather be looking at the richacl patch sets?
> >
>
> Yes, I understand the nature of such mapping and impossibility of mapping NFSv4 ACLs to POSIX ACLs in some cases. But, as I understand, the richacl patch set is not mainline yet. And even if it will be in mainline then a user can have choice to use POSIX ACLs or richacls. So, we need to map NFSv4 ACLs <-> POSIX ACLs in hfsplus for the case of using POSIX ACLs model. I think that to have such mapping is better than to have nothing. Moreover, a user can use HFS+ filesystem with using POSIX ACLs only under Linux. Thereby, the generalization of mapping NFSv4 ACLs <-> POSIX ACLs makes sense, from my viewpoint.
No, there is no requirement that you must support the POSIX acl
interface in addition to NFSv4/richacls.
No, supporting a POSIX mapping is not necessarily "better than nothing"
if it cannot faithfully represent the original NFSv4 acl. Do you at
least enforce the original acl in permissions checks?
--
Trond Myklebust
Linux NFS client maintainer
NetApp
Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com
www.netapp.com
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Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-09 16:37 [PATCH v4 0/5] nfsd + hfsplus: introduce generalized version of NFSv4 ACLs <-> POSIX ACLs mapping algorithms Vyacheslav Dubeyko
[not found] ` <1368117430.5695.30.camel-dzAnj6fV1RxGeWtTaGDT1UEK6ufn8VP3@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-09 17:01 ` Myklebust, Trond
[not found] ` <1368118877.3282.104.camel-5lNtUQgoD8Pfa3cDbr2K10B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-09 17:34 ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
2013-05-09 18:10 ` Myklebust, Trond [this message]
2013-05-09 18:16 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-05-09 20:36 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20130509181647.GA18541-spRCxval1Z7TsXDwO4sDpg@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-10 11:19 ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
[not found] ` <243AE8A2-453A-4F16-BF66-4E1EE4EA8309-yeENwD64cLxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-10 17:28 ` J. Bruce Fields
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