From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ot0-f196.google.com ([74.125.82.196]:52639 "EHLO mail-ot0-f196.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758985AbdKPJaK (ORCPT ); Thu, 16 Nov 2017 04:30:10 -0500 Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v3 3/6] sched/idle: Add a generic poll before enter real idle path To: Peter Zijlstra , Thomas Gleixner Cc: Quan Xu , kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, LKML , virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, x86@kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, Yang Zhang , Ingo Molnar , "H. Peter Anvin" , Borislav Petkov , Kyle Huey , Len Brown , Andy Lutomirski , Tom Lendacky , Tobias Klauser , Daniel Lezcano References: <1510567565-5118-1-git-send-email-quan.xu0@gmail.com> <1510567565-5118-4-git-send-email-quan.xu0@gmail.com> <20171115121152.gqug5wzerlo3eimd@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20171116084555.it2hqajxxd6ld5tq@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> From: Quan Xu Message-ID: <13a3a5c5-ec14-131f-fe6a-01700783de81@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 17:29:58 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20171116084555.it2hqajxxd6ld5tq@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Sender: linux-fsdevel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On 2017-11-16 16:45, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 11:03:08PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote: >> If I understand the problem correctly then he wants to avoid the heavy >> lifting in tick_nohz_idle_enter() in the first place, but there is already >> an interesting quirk there which makes it exit early. > Sure. And there are people who want to do the same for native. > > Adding more ugly and special cases just isn't the way to go about doing > that. > > I'm fairly sure I've told the various groups that want to tinker with > this to work together on this. I've also in fairly significant detail > sketched how to rework the idle code and idle predictors. > > At this point I'm too tired to dig any of that up, so I'll just keep > saying no to patches that don't even attempt to go in the right > direction. Peter, take care. I really have considered this factor, and try my best not to interfere with scheduler/idle code. if irq_timings code is ready, I can use it directly. I think irq_timings is not an easy task, I'd like to help as much as I can.  Also don't try to touch tick_nohz* code again. as tglx suggested, this can be handled either in a HV specific idle driver or even in the generic core code. I hope this is in the right direction. Quan Alibaba Cloud