From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bedivere.hansenpartnership.com ([66.63.167.143]:60796 "EHLO bedivere.hansenpartnership.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750912AbdBUEH6 (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:07:58 -0500 Message-ID: <1487650073.2337.75.camel@HansenPartnership.com> Subject: Re: [RFC 1/1] shiftfs: uid/gid shifting bind mount From: James Bottomley To: "J. R. Okajima" Cc: Djalal Harouni , Chris Mason , Theodore Tso , Josh Triplett , "Eric W. Biederman" , Andy Lutomirski , Seth Forshee , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, Dongsu Park , David Herrmann , Miklos Szeredi , Alban Crequy , Al Viro , "Serge E. Hallyn" , Phil Estes Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 20:07:53 -0800 In-Reply-To: <25645.1487645847@jrobl> References: <1486235880.2484.17.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <1486235972.2484.19.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <4608.1486351540@jrobl> <1486363583.2496.63.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <23764.1486398277@jrobl> <1487638135.2337.51.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <25645.1487645847@jrobl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-fsdevel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Tue, 2017-02-21 at 11:57 +0900, J. R. Okajima wrote: > James Bottomley: > > I realised as I was trimming down the vestigial inode properties in > > the patch that actually shiftfs does use the i_ino from the > > underlying for userspace. The reason why is that it comes from the > > getattr call in stat and that's fully what the underlying > > filesystem returns (including the inode number). > > Let me make sure. > - shiftfs has its own inode, but it will never be visible to > userspace. - the inode attr visible to users are equivalent to the > underlying one, includeing dev:ino pair. > right? Yes, it behaves like a bind mount. > If so, I am afraid it will make users confused. The dev:ino pair is a > system-wide identity, I don't believe it will, otherwise they'd have the same confusion over a real bind mount. The dev:inum pair identifies an inode. An inode may have many paths and shiftfs just adds a path. > but shiftfs creates the same dev:ino pair with different owner. With a different owner view, but that's irrelevant to the underlying inode. > Though I don't know whether the actual application or LSM exists or > not who will be damaged by this situation. > For git-status case which I wrote previously, it might not be a > problem as long as dev:ino is unchanged from git index. > But such filesystem looks weird. It behaves as much as possible like a bind mount and the user view is standard behaviour, so it can't really be classified as "weird". What won't work like a classic bind mount in this scenario is NFS exporting, but that's about the only thing. James