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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Aleksa Sarai <asarai@suse.de>,
	trondmy@primarydata.com, mszeredi@redhat.com,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, jlayton@redhat.com,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Make containers kernel objects
Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 08:44:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1495554267.27369.9.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bmqjmwl5.fsf@xmission.com>

On Tue, 2017-05-23 at 10:17 -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> writes:
> > Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
> > > It does solve this in userspace rather simply.
> > 
> > Ummm...  How?  The kernel DNS resolver is not namespace aware.
> 
> But it works fine if called in the proper context and we have a 
> defacto standard for where to put all of the files (the tricky part) 
> if you are dealing with multiple network namespaces simultaneously.

I think you're missing each other's points slightly.

What David is pointing out is that the kernel has a DNS cache
(net/dns_resolver/) it can do name to IP translations, but isn't
namespaced.  Once it has one entry all containers would see it if they
cause a lookup to go through the kernel cache, so going through the
cache you can't have a name resolving to different IP addresses on a
per container basis.

I think Eric's point is that if you need the same DNS names resolving
to different IP addresses on a per container basis, you can do this in
userspace today but you have to disable the in-kernel DNS cache.

James

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-23 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-22 16:22 [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Make containers kernel objects David Howells
2017-05-22 16:22 ` [PATCH 1/9] containers: Rename linux/container.h to linux/container_dev.h David Howells
2017-05-22 16:22 ` [PATCH 2/9] Implement containers as kernel objects David Howells
2017-08-14  5:47   ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-08-16 22:21     ` Paul Moore
2017-08-18  8:03       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-09-06 14:03         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-09-14  5:47           ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-09-08 20:02         ` Paul Moore
2017-05-22 16:22 ` [PATCH 3/9] Provide /proc/containers David Howells
2017-05-22 16:22 ` [PATCH 4/9] Allow processes to be forked and upcalled into a container David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 5/9] Open a socket inside " David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 6/9] Allow fs syscall dfd arguments to take a container fd David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 7/9] Make fsopen() able to initiate mounting into a container David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 8/9] Honour CONTAINER_NEW_EMPTY_FS_NS David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 9/9] Sample program for driving container objects David Howells
2017-05-22 16:53 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Make containers kernel objects James Bottomley
2017-05-22 17:14   ` Aleksa Sarai
2017-05-22 17:27   ` Jessica Frazelle
2017-05-22 18:34   ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-22 19:21     ` James Bottomley
2017-05-22 22:14       ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-23 10:35       ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23  9:38   ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23 14:53   ` David Howells
2017-05-23 14:56     ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 15:14     ` David Howells
2017-05-23 15:17       ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 15:44         ` James Bottomley [this message]
2017-05-23 16:36         ` David Howells
2017-05-24  8:26           ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-24  9:16             ` Ian Kent
2017-05-22 17:11 ` Jessica Frazelle
2017-05-22 19:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-22 22:22   ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-23 12:54     ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 14:27       ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-23 14:30       ` Djalal Harouni
2017-05-23 14:54         ` Colin Walters
2017-05-23 15:31           ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-23 15:35             ` Colin Walters
2017-05-23 15:30         ` David Howells
2017-05-23 14:23     ` Djalal Harouni
2017-05-27 17:45   ` Trond Myklebust
2017-05-27 19:10     ` James Bottomley
2017-05-23 10:09 ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23 13:52 ` David Howells
2017-05-23 15:02   ` James Bottomley
2017-05-23 15:23   ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 15:12 ` David Howells
2017-05-23 15:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 16:13 ` David Howells

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