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From: Michael Neuling <mikey@neuling.org>
To: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Americo Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, stable@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org,
	Serge Hallyn <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	benh@kernel.crashing.org, miltonm@bga.com, aeb@cwi.nl,
	linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Restrict initial stack space expansion to rlimit
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:22:33 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17278.1265926953@neuling.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B7481A6.7080300@gmx.de>

In message <4B7481A6.7080300@gmx.de> you wrote:
> On 02/10/2010 06:31 AM, Michael Neuling wrote:
> > In message<20100210141016.4D18.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>  you wrote:
> >>> On 02/09/2010 10:51 PM, Michael Neuling wrote:
> >>>>>> I'd still like someone with a CONFIG_STACK_GROWSUP arch to test/ACK it
> >>>>>> as well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There's only one CONFIG_GROWSUP arch - parisc.
> >>>>> Could someone please test it on parisc?
> >>>
> >>> I did.
> >>>
> >>>> How about doing:
> >>>>     'ulimit -s 15; ls'
> >>>> before and after the patch is applied.  Before it's applied, 'ls' should
> >>>> be killed.  After the patch is applied, 'ls' should no longer be killed.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm suggesting a stack limit of 15KB since it's small enough to trigger
> >>>> 20*PAGE_SIZE.  Also 15KB not a multiple of PAGE_SIZE, which is a trickie
r
> >>>> case to handle correctly with this code.
> >>>>
> >>>> 4K pages on parisc should be fine to test with.
> >>>
> >>> Mikey, thanks for the suggested test plan.
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure if your patch does it correct for parisc/stack-grows-up-case
.
> >>>
> >>> I tested your patch on  a 4k pages kernel:
> >>> root@c3000:~# uname -a
> >>> Linux c3000 2.6.33-rc7-32bit #221 Tue Feb 9 23:17:06 CET 2010 parisc GNU/
Li
> > nux
> >>>
> >>> Without your patch:
> >>> root@c3000:~# ulimit -s 15; ls
> >>> Killed
> >>> ->  correct.
> >>>
> >>> With your patch:
> >>> root@c3000:~# ulimit -s 15; ls
> >>> Killed
> >>> _or_:
> >>> root@c3000:~# ulimit -s 15; ls
> >>> Segmentation fault
> >>> ->  ??
> >>>
> >>> Any idea?
> >>
> >> My x86_64 box also makes segmentation fault. I think "ulimit -s 15" is too
 sm
> > all stack for ls.
> >> "ulimit -s 27; ls "  wroks perfectly fine.
> >
> > Arrh.  I asked Helge offline earlier to check what use to work on parisc
> > on 2.6.31.
> >
> > I guess PPC has a nice clean non-bloated ABI :-D
> 
> Hi Mikey,
> 
> I tested again, and it works for me with "ulimit -s 27" as well (on a
> 4k, 32bit kernel).
> Still, I'm not 100%  sure if your patch is correct.

Thanks for retesting

Did "ulimit -s 27" fail before you applied?

> Anyway, it seems to work.
> 
> But what makes me wonder is, why EXTRA_STACK_VM_PAGES is defined in pages at 
all.
> You wrote in your patch description:
> > This bug means that when limiting the stack to less the 20*PAGE_SIZE (eg.
> > 80K on 4K pages or 'ulimit -s 79') all processes will be killed before
> > they start.  This is particularly bad with 64K pages, where a ulimit below
> > 1280K will kill every process.
> 
> Wouldn't it make sense to define and use EXTRA_STACK_VM_SIZE instead
> (e.g. as 20*4096 = 80k)?  This extra stack reservation should IMHO be
> independend of the actual kernel page size.

If you look back through this thread, that has already been noted but
it's a separate issue to this bug, so that change will be deferred till
2.6.34.

Mikey

  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-11 22:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <3984.1265416993@neuling.org>
     [not found] ` <20100206042038.GB32246@kryten>
     [not found]   ` <10125.1265451732@neuling.org>
2010-02-08  0:07     ` [PATCH] Restrict stack space reservation to rlimit Michael Neuling
2010-02-08  0:28       ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-08  5:06       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-08  5:11         ` Anton Blanchard
2010-02-08  5:22           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-08  5:31             ` Anton Blanchard
2010-02-08  6:11               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-08  5:37             ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-08  6:05               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-08  7:07                 ` Américo Wang
2010-02-08  7:11                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-09  6:11                     ` [PATCH] Restrict initial stack space expansion " Michael Neuling
2010-02-09  6:46                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-09  8:59                         ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-09 21:25                           ` Andrew Morton
2010-02-09 21:51                             ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-09 22:27                               ` Helge Deller
2010-02-10  5:12                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-10  5:30                                   ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-10  5:31                                   ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-11 22:16                                     ` Helge Deller
2010-02-11 22:22                                       ` Michael Neuling [this message]
2010-02-08 10:45                 ` [PATCH] Restrict stack space reservation " Michael Neuling

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