From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
To: tytso@mit.edu
Cc: joannelkoong@gmail.com, miklos@szeredi.hu, John@groves.net,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, bernd@bsbernd.com,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, neal@gompa.dev
Subject: [PATCHSET RFC v3 1/3] fuse2fs: use fuse iomap data paths for better file I/O performance
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2025 16:25:48 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <175279460935.715479.15460687085573767955.stgit@frogsfrogsfrogs> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250717231038.GQ2672029@frogsfrogsfrogs>
Hi all,
Switch fuse2fs to use the new iomap file data IO paths instead of
pushing it very slowly through the /dev/fuse connection. For local
filesystems, all we have to do is respond to requests for file to device
mappings; the rest of the IO hot path stays within the kernel. This
means that we can get rid of all file data block processing within
fuse2fs.
Because we're not pinning dirty pages through a potentially slow network
connection, we don't need the heavy BDI throttling for which most fuse
servers have become infamous. Yes, mapping lookups for writeback can
stall, but mappings are small as compared to data and this situation
exists for all kernel filesystems as well.
The performance of this new data path is quite stunning: on a warm
system, streaming reads and writes through the pagecache go from
60-90MB/s to 2-2.5GB/s. Direct IO reads and writes improve from the
same baseline to 2.5-8GB/s. FIEMAP and SEEK_DATA/SEEK_HOLE now work
too. The kernel ext4 driver can manage about 1.6GB/s for pagecache IO
and about 2.6-8.5GB/s, which means that fuse2fs is about as fast as the
kernel for streaming file IO.
Random 4k buffered IO is not so good: plain fuse2fs pokes along at
25-50MB/s, whereas fuse2fs with iomap manages 90-1300MB/s. The kernel
can do 900-1300MB/s. Random directio is worse: plain fuse2fs does
20-30MB/s, fuse-iomap does about 30-35MB/s, and the kernel does
40-55MB/s. I suspect that metadata heavy workloads do not perform well
on fuse2fs because libext2fs wasn't designed for that and it doesn't
even have a journal to absorb all the fsync writes. We also probably
need iomap caching really badly.
These performance numbers are slanted: my machine is 12 years old, and
fuse2fs is VERY poorly optimized for performance. It contains a single
Big Filesystem Lock which nukes multi-threaded scalability. There's no
inode cache nor is there a proper buffer cache, which means that fuse2fs
reads metadata in from disk and checksums it on EVERY ACCESS. Sad!
Despite these gaps, this RFC demonstrates that it's feasible to run the
metadata parsing parts of a filesystem in userspace while not
sacrificing much performance. We now have a vehicle to move the
filesystems out of the kernel, where they can be containerized so that
malicious filesystems can be contained, somewhat.
If you're going to start using this code, I strongly recommend pulling
from my git trees, which are linked below.
Comments and questions are, as always, welcome.
e2fsprogs git tree:
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/djwong/e2fsprogs.git/log/?h=fuse2fs-iomap
---
Commits in this patchset:
* fuse2fs: implement bare minimum iomap for file mapping reporting
* fuse2fs: add iomap= mount option
* fuse2fs: implement iomap configuration
* fuse2fs: register block devices for use with iomap
* fuse2fs: always use directio disk reads with fuse2fs
* fuse2fs: implement directio file reads
* fuse2fs: use tagged block IO for zeroing sub-block regions
* fuse2fs: only flush the cache for the file under directio read
* fuse2fs: add extent dump function for debugging
* fuse2fs: implement direct write support
* fuse2fs: turn on iomap for pagecache IO
* fuse2fs: improve tracing for fallocate
* fuse2fs: don't zero bytes in punch hole
* fuse2fs: don't do file data block IO when iomap is enabled
* fuse2fs: disable most io channel flush/invalidate in iomap pagecache mode
* fuse2fs: re-enable the block device pagecache for metadata IO
* fuse2fs: avoid fuseblk mode if fuse-iomap support is likely
* fuse2fs: don't allow hardlinks for now
* fuse2fs: enable file IO to inline data files
* fuse2fs: set iomap-related inode flags
* fuse2fs: add strictatime/lazytime mount options
* fuse2fs: configure block device block size
---
configure | 47 ++
configure.ac | 32 +
lib/config.h.in | 3
misc/fuse2fs.c | 1567 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
4 files changed, 1628 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-17 23:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 174+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-17 23:10 [RFC v3] fuse: use fs-iomap for better performance so we can containerize ext4 Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:23 ` [PATCHSET RFC v3 1/4] fuse: fixes and cleanups ahead of iomap support Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:26 ` [PATCH 1/7] fuse: fix livelock in synchronous file put from fuseblk workers Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:26 ` [PATCH 2/7] fuse: flush pending fuse events before aborting the connection Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-18 16:37 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-07-18 17:50 ` Joanne Koong
2025-07-18 17:57 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-07-18 18:38 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-18 18:07 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-07-18 18:13 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-07-18 19:34 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-18 21:03 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-07-18 22:23 ` Joanne Koong
2025-07-19 0:32 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-21 20:32 ` Joanne Koong
2025-07-23 17:34 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-23 21:02 ` Joanne Koong
2025-07-23 21:11 ` Joanne Koong
2025-07-24 22:28 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-22 12:30 ` Jeff Layton
2025-07-22 12:38 ` Jeff Layton
2025-07-23 15:37 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-23 16:24 ` Jeff Layton
2025-07-31 9:45 ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-31 17:52 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-19 7:18 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-21 20:05 ` Joanne Koong
2025-07-23 17:06 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-23 20:27 ` Joanne Koong
2025-07-24 22:34 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:27 ` [PATCH 3/7] fuse: capture the unique id of fuse commands being sent Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-18 17:10 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-07-18 18:13 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-22 22:20 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-07-17 23:27 ` [PATCH 4/7] fuse: implement file attributes mask for statx Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-18 15:11 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-18 20:01 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-18 20:04 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-19 15:01 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-19 22:51 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-20 9:16 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-20 9:40 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-20 15:16 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-20 15:31 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-20 15:09 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-20 15:23 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-20 15:29 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:27 ` [PATCH 5/7] iomap: exit early when iomap_iter is called with zero length Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:27 ` [PATCH 6/7] iomap: trace iomap_zero_iter zeroing activities Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:28 ` [PATCH 7/7] iomap: error out on file IO when there is no inline_data buffer Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:24 ` [PATCHSET RFC v3 2/4] fuse: allow servers to use iomap for better file IO performance Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:28 ` [PATCH 01/13] fuse: implement the basic iomap mechanisms Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:28 ` [PATCH 02/13] fuse: add an ioctl to add new iomap devices Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:28 ` [PATCH 03/13] fuse: flush events and send FUSE_SYNCFS and FUSE_DESTROY on unmount Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:29 ` [PATCH 04/13] fuse: implement basic iomap reporting such as FIEMAP and SEEK_{DATA,HOLE} Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:29 ` [PATCH 05/13] fuse: implement direct IO with iomap Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:29 ` [PATCH 06/13] fuse: implement buffered " Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-18 15:10 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-18 18:01 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-18 18:39 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-07-18 18:46 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-18 19:45 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-18 20:20 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:29 ` [PATCH 07/13] fuse: enable caching of timestamps Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:30 ` [PATCH 08/13] fuse: implement large folios for iomap pagecache files Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:30 ` [PATCH 09/13] fuse: use an unrestricted backing device with iomap pagecache io Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:30 ` [PATCH 10/13] fuse: advertise support for iomap Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:31 ` [PATCH 11/13] fuse: query filesystem geometry when using iomap Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:31 ` [PATCH 12/13] fuse: implement fadvise for iomap files Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:31 ` [PATCH 13/13] fuse: implement inline data file IO via iomap Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:24 ` [PATCHSET RFC v3 3/4] fuse: cache iomap mappings for even better file IO performance Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:31 ` [PATCH 1/4] fuse: cache iomaps Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:32 ` [PATCH 2/4] fuse: use the iomap cache for iomap_begin Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:32 ` [PATCH 3/4] fuse: invalidate iomap cache after file updates Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:32 ` [PATCH 4/4] fuse: enable iomap cache management Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:24 ` [PATCHSET RFC v3 4/4] fuse: handle timestamps and ACLs correctly when iomap is enabled Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:32 ` [PATCH 1/7] fuse: force a ctime update after a fileattr_set call when in iomap mode Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:33 ` [PATCH 2/7] fuse: synchronize inode->i_flags after fileattr_[gs]et Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:33 ` [PATCH 3/7] fuse: cache atime when in iomap mode Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:33 ` [PATCH 4/7] fuse: update file mode when updating acls Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:33 ` [PATCH 5/7] fuse: propagate default and file acls on creation Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:34 ` [PATCH 6/7] fuse: let the kernel handle KILL_SUID/KILL_SGID for iomap filesystems Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:34 ` [PATCH 7/7] fuse: update ctime when updating acls on an iomap inode Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:25 ` [PATCHSET RFC v3 1/3] libfuse: allow servers to use iomap for better file IO performance Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:34 ` [PATCH 01/14] libfuse: add kernel gates for FUSE_IOMAP and bump libfuse api version Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:34 ` [PATCH 02/14] libfuse: add fuse commands for iomap_begin and end Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:35 ` [PATCH 03/14] libfuse: add upper level iomap commands Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:35 ` [PATCH 04/14] libfuse: add a notification to add a new device to iomap Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:35 ` [PATCH 05/14] libfuse: add iomap ioend low level handler Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:35 ` [PATCH 06/14] libfuse: add upper level iomap ioend commands Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:36 ` [PATCH 07/14] libfuse: add a reply function to send FUSE_ATTR_* to the kernel Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-18 14:10 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-18 15:48 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-19 7:34 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-17 23:36 ` [PATCH 08/14] libfuse: connect high level fuse library to fuse_reply_attr_iflags Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-18 14:27 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-18 15:55 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-21 18:51 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-07-23 17:50 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-24 19:56 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-29 5:35 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-29 7:50 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-29 14:22 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:36 ` [PATCH 09/14] libfuse: add FUSE_IOMAP_DIRECTIO Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:37 ` [PATCH 10/14] libfuse: add FUSE_IOMAP_FILEIO Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:37 ` [PATCH 11/14] libfuse: allow discovery of the kernel's iomap capabilities Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:37 ` [PATCH 12/14] libfuse: add lower level iomap_config implementation Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:37 ` [PATCH 13/14] libfuse: add upper " Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:38 ` [PATCH 14/14] libfuse: add strictatime/lazytime mount options Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:25 ` [PATCHSET RFC v3 2/3] libfuse: cache iomap mappings for even better file IO performance Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:38 ` [PATCH 1/1] libfuse: enable iomap cache management Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-18 16:16 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-07-18 18:22 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-18 18:35 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-07-18 18:40 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-18 18:51 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-07-17 23:25 ` [PATCHSET RFC v3 3/3] libfuse: implement statx and syncfs Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:38 ` [PATCH 1/4] libfuse: wire up FUSE_SYNCFS to the low level library Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:38 ` [PATCH 2/4] libfuse: add syncfs support to the upper library Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:39 ` [PATCH 3/4] libfuse: add statx support to the lower level library Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-18 13:28 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-18 15:58 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-18 16:27 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-18 16:54 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-07-18 18:42 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:39 ` [PATCH 4/4] libfuse: add upper level statx hooks Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:25 ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2025-07-17 23:39 ` [PATCH 01/22] fuse2fs: implement bare minimum iomap for file mapping reporting Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:39 ` [PATCH 02/22] fuse2fs: add iomap= mount option Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:40 ` [PATCH 03/22] fuse2fs: implement iomap configuration Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:40 ` [PATCH 04/22] fuse2fs: register block devices for use with iomap Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:40 ` [PATCH 05/22] fuse2fs: always use directio disk reads with fuse2fs Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:40 ` [PATCH 06/22] fuse2fs: implement directio file reads Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:41 ` [PATCH 07/22] fuse2fs: use tagged block IO for zeroing sub-block regions Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:41 ` [PATCH 08/22] fuse2fs: only flush the cache for the file under directio read Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:41 ` [PATCH 09/22] fuse2fs: add extent dump function for debugging Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:41 ` [PATCH 10/22] fuse2fs: implement direct write support Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:42 ` [PATCH 11/22] fuse2fs: turn on iomap for pagecache IO Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:42 ` [PATCH 12/22] fuse2fs: improve tracing for fallocate Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:42 ` [PATCH 13/22] fuse2fs: don't zero bytes in punch hole Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:43 ` [PATCH 14/22] fuse2fs: don't do file data block IO when iomap is enabled Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:43 ` [PATCH 15/22] fuse2fs: disable most io channel flush/invalidate in iomap pagecache mode Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:43 ` [PATCH 16/22] fuse2fs: re-enable the block device pagecache for metadata IO Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:43 ` [PATCH 17/22] fuse2fs: avoid fuseblk mode if fuse-iomap support is likely Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:44 ` [PATCH 18/22] fuse2fs: don't allow hardlinks for now Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:44 ` [PATCH 19/22] fuse2fs: enable file IO to inline data files Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:44 ` [PATCH 20/22] fuse2fs: set iomap-related inode flags Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:44 ` [PATCH 21/22] fuse2fs: add strictatime/lazytime mount options Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:45 ` [PATCH 22/22] fuse2fs: configure block device block size Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:26 ` [PATCHSET RFC v3 2/3] fuse2fs: use fuse iomap data paths for better file I/O performance Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:45 ` [PATCH 1/1] fuse2fs: enable caching of iomaps Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:26 ` [PATCHSET RFC v3 3/3] fuse2fs: handle timestamps and ACLs correctly when iomap is enabled Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:45 ` [PATCH 01/10] fuse2fs: allow O_APPEND and O_TRUNC opens Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:45 ` [PATCH 02/10] fuse2fs: skip permission checking on utimens when iomap is enabled Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:46 ` [PATCH 03/10] fuse2fs: let the kernel tell us about acl/mode updates Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:46 ` [PATCH 04/10] fuse2fs: better debugging for file mode updates Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:46 ` [PATCH 05/10] fuse2fs: debug timestamp updates Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:46 ` [PATCH 06/10] fuse2fs: use coarse timestamps for iomap mode Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:47 ` [PATCH 07/10] fuse2fs: add tracing for retrieving timestamps Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:47 ` [PATCH 08/10] fuse2fs: enable syncfs Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:47 ` [PATCH 09/10] fuse2fs: skip the gdt write in op_destroy if syncfs is working Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:47 ` [PATCH 10/10] fuse2fs: implement statx Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-18 8:54 ` [RFC v3] fuse: use fs-iomap for better performance so we can containerize ext4 Christian Brauner
2025-07-18 11:55 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-18 19:31 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-18 19:56 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-18 20:21 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-23 13:05 ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-23 18:04 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-31 10:13 ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-31 17:22 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-04 10:12 ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-12 20:20 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-15 14:20 ` Christian Brauner
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