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From: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
To: Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@gmail.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>, Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>, "J?rn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux RAID <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Is TRIM/DISCARD going to be a performance problem?
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:38:21 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18952.46829.115084.46432@notabene.brown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: message from Greg Freemyer on Monday May 11

On Monday May 11, greg.freemyer@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> And since the mdraid layer is not currently planning to track what has
> been discarded over time, when a re-shape comes along, it will
> effectively un-trim everything and rewrite 100% of the FS.

You might not call them "plans" exactly, but I have had thoughts
about tracking which part of an raid5 had 'live' data and which were
trimmed.  I think that is the only way I could support TRIM, unless
devices guarantee that all trimmed blocks read a zeros, and that seems
unlikely.
You are right that the granularity would have to be at least
one stripe.
And a re-shape would be interesting, wouldn't it!  We could probably
avoid instantiating every trimmed block, but in general quite a few
would get instantiated.. I hadn't thought about that...

NeilBrown

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-05-11 23:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-09 21:14 Is TRIM/DISCARD going to be a performance problem? Theodore Ts'o
2009-05-10 16:53 ` Jörn Engel
2009-05-11  8:37   ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-11 10:06     ` Jörn Engel
2009-05-11 10:18       ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-11 15:43         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-11 11:27       ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-11 12:09         ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-11 13:10           ` Greg Freemyer
2009-05-11 13:39             ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-11 14:27             ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-11 14:29               ` Ric Wheeler
2009-05-11 14:50                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-11 14:58                   ` Ric Wheeler
2009-05-11 15:00                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-11 18:47                     ` Greg Freemyer
2009-05-11 19:22                       ` Andreas Dilger
2009-05-11 23:38                       ` Neil Brown [this message]
2009-05-12 13:28                         ` Greg Freemyer
2009-05-11 13:15           ` Ric Wheeler
2010-04-24 17:11           ` Phillip Susi
2009-05-11 12:43         ` Jörn Engel
2009-05-11 12:48           ` Matthew Wilcox
     [not found]             ` <f3177b9e0905111433i40e41c90r920d7ccf36442ffd@mail.gmail.com>
2009-05-11 22:03               ` Chris Worley
2009-05-11 16:30       ` Chris Worley
2009-05-11  8:12 ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-11  8:41   ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-11  8:49     ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-11 17:18     ` Chris Mason
2009-05-11 18:43       ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-11 18:53         ` Chris Mason
2009-05-11 19:19           ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-29 10:52         ` Florian Weimer

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