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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	adilger@dilger.ca, martin.petersen@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/11] nvme: add support for streams and directives
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 08:20:01 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1ede2083-69db-a86f-8e32-43ca293e9c8e@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170617122106.GB8320@infradead.org>

On 06/17/2017 06:21 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 01:41:36PM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> But honestly, I simply don't care too much about it, for a few reasons:
>>
>> 1) I don't know of anyone that uses name spaces to split up a device,
>>    except for places where the want integrity on one and not the other.
>>    And I haven't even seen that.
>>
>> 2) If you do have multiple name spaces, you get some data separation
>>    through that. Or not, depending on the device.
>>
>> In any case, we'll just have to divide up the streams. Right now we just
>> allocate 4 in a first-come first-serve basis. If you have more name
>> spaces than streams/4, then some name spaces don't get streams. We could
>> make this more fair and do:
> 
> Or just not reserve streams for exclusive use of the namespace and
> use them directly from the global pool.  Especially if you ever want
> to use streams with shared disk filesystems or databases you'd have
> to do that anyway.  And due to our hardcoded streams values that
> will in fact work nicely.  And it would get rid of the lazy setup
> code as well.

We can certainly go that route. So you'd be fine with allocating 4
streams controller wide by default, and dump the lazy alloc? We can make
this depend on the streams module parameter, so people could turn it
off, if needed.

>>> "If the host issues a Dataset Management command to deallocate logical
>>>  blocks that are associated with a stream, it should specify a starting
>>>  LBA and length that is aligned to and in multiples of the Stream
>>>  Granularity Size"
>>
>> Do we use that internally?
> 
> I don't understand the comment.  If we issue a deallocate (discard)
> we should align it to the Stream Granularity Size as exposed by the
> device, easy enough.  While we're at it we should probably also
> expose the Stream Write Size as io_min and the Stream Granularity Size
> as io_opt in our I/O topology information while at it.

OK, that's easy enough to do, if we enable streams on a controller basis
at probe time.

-- 
Jens Axboe

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-17 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-16 17:24 [PATCHSET v6] Add support for write life time hints Jens Axboe
2017-06-16 17:24 ` [PATCH 01/11] fs: add support for an inode to carry write hint related data Jens Axboe
2017-06-16 17:24 ` [PATCH 02/11] block: add support for write hints in a bio Jens Axboe
2017-06-16 17:24 ` [PATCH 03/11] blk-mq: expose stream write hints through debugfs Jens Axboe
2017-06-16 17:24 ` [PATCH 04/11] fs: add support for allowing applications to pass in write life time hints Jens Axboe
2017-06-16 17:24 ` [PATCH 05/11] fs: add fcntl() interface for setting/getting " Jens Axboe
2017-06-16 17:24 ` [PATCH 06/11] fs: add O_DIRECT support for sending down " Jens Axboe
2017-06-16 17:24 ` [PATCH 07/11] fs: add support for buffered writeback to pass down write hints Jens Axboe
2017-06-16 17:24 ` [PATCH 08/11] ext4: add support for passing in write hints for buffered writes Jens Axboe
2017-06-16 17:24 ` [PATCH 09/11] xfs: " Jens Axboe
2017-06-16 17:24 ` [PATCH 10/11] btrfs: " Jens Axboe
2017-06-16 17:24 ` [PATCH 11/11] nvme: add support for streams and directives Jens Axboe
2017-06-16 18:09   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-16 19:41     ` Jens Axboe
2017-06-16 19:56       ` Jens Axboe
2017-06-17 12:21       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-17 14:20         ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2017-06-17 15:03           ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-17 15:11             ` Jens Axboe
2017-06-17 15:43               ` Jens Axboe
2017-06-19  6:25               ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-19 14:31                 ` Jens Axboe
2017-06-19 14:53                   ` Jens Axboe
2017-06-19 18:53                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-19 19:03                       ` Jens Axboe
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-06-17 19:59 [PATCHSET v7] Add support for write life time hints Jens Axboe
2017-06-17 19:59 ` [PATCH 11/11] nvme: add support for streams and directives Jens Axboe
2017-06-19  6:35   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-19 15:04     ` Jens Axboe
2017-06-15  3:45 [PATCHSET v4] Add support for write life time hints Jens Axboe
2017-06-15  3:45 ` [PATCH 11/11] nvme: add support for streams and directives Jens Axboe
2017-06-14 19:05 [PATCHSET v3] Add support for write life time hints Jens Axboe
2017-06-14 19:05 ` [PATCH 11/11] nvme: add support for streams and directives Jens Axboe
2017-06-14 20:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-14 20:43     ` Jens Axboe
2017-06-13 17:15 [PATCH 0/11] Add support for write life time hints Jens Axboe
2017-06-13 17:15 ` [PATCH 11/11] nvme: add support for streams and directives Jens Axboe
2017-06-13 19:47   ` Andreas Dilger
2017-06-13 20:25     ` Jens Axboe
2017-06-13 21:12   ` Andreas Dilger
2017-06-13 21:18     ` Jens Axboe

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