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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: "Joseph D. Wagner" <theman@josephdwagner.info>
Cc: "'maximilian attems'" <janitor@sternwelten.at>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Does sendfile() copy extended attributes?
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:40:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031220204040.GA28180@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <006301c3c6f3$8274ef80$0201a8c0@joe>

Joseph D. Wagner wrote:
> Because that violates one of the Immutable Laws of Security -- "If
> you're running someone else's program, it's not your program anymore."

That is equally the case if you're running someone else's function.

> If my program executes another program like cp/rsync in your
> example, it would be vulnerable to a privilege elevation when run as
> root.  A hacker could replace cp/rsync, change the PATH, or a dozen
> other tricks to get it to execute his version of cp/rsync.

A hacker could also change libc.so and thereby change the copy function.

> Now if there's a function call that will copy a file -- other than
> the sendfile function which is what this thread has been all about --
> I'm all ears.  However, I am not going to execute another program.

You are imagining a black box function which is specified to copy a
file and its attributes.  How can you know that function does not work
by calling an external program?

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-20 20:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-14 17:39 Does sendfile() copy extended attributes? Joseph D. Wagner
2003-12-15  5:43 ` Shaya Potter
2003-12-15  5:46   ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-15  5:49     ` Shaya Potter
2003-12-15  5:55       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-15  5:59         ` Shaya Potter
2003-12-15 17:16 ` Bryan Henderson
2003-12-15 20:15   ` Joseph D. Wagner
2003-12-15 21:28     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-16  4:28       ` Joseph D. Wagner
2003-12-19 16:37         ` maximilian attems
2003-12-20 12:19           ` Joseph D. Wagner
2003-12-20 20:40             ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2003-12-21 11:01               ` Joseph D. Wagner
2003-12-21 11:50                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-21 19:31                   ` Joseph D. Wagner
2003-12-21 19:44                     ` Shaya Potter
2003-12-21 19:51                       ` Jamie Lokier

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