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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 21:47:46 +0100
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Jeremy Allison wrote:
> > I meant when I copy not using Samba.  For example, I copy the .doc
> > file in Windows NT to an FTP server.
> > 
> > Does the FTP operation magically linearise the .doc streams on demand?
> > Or does FTP lose part of the Word document?
> 
> Good question. It depends if the Microsoft ftp client is streams-aware,
> and understands the Microsoft OLE structured storage format and will do
> the linearisation on demand or not. I must confess I haven't tested this,
> as I don't ever run Windows other than on vmware sessions for Samba testing
> these days :-).
> 
> Probably a non-Microsoft ftp client would lose part of the word doc.

So you're saying SCP, CVS, Subversion, Bitkeeper, Apache and rsyncd
will _all_ lose part of a Word document when they handle it on a
Window box?

Ouch!

The only sensible implementation I can imagine would be if the OS
linearised multi-stream Word documents into the non-stream format
automatically for all programs which don't know about streams.

Which is of course what I would like to implement for Linux...

- Jamie