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From: Jeremy Allison <jra@samba.org>
Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 13:51:40 -0700
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On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 09:47:46PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Jeremy Allison wrote:
> > > I meant when I copy not using Samba.  For example, I copy the .doc
> > > file in Windows NT to an FTP server.
> > > 
> > > Does the FTP operation magically linearise the .doc streams on demand?
> > > Or does FTP lose part of the Word document?
> > 
> > Good question. It depends if the Microsoft ftp client is streams-aware,
> > and understands the Microsoft OLE structured storage format and will do
> > the linearisation on demand or not. I must confess I haven't tested this,
> > as I don't ever run Windows other than on vmware sessions for Samba testing
> > these days :-).
> > 
> > Probably a non-Microsoft ftp client would lose part of the word doc.
> 
> So you're saying SCP, CVS, Subversion, Bitkeeper, Apache and rsyncd
> will _all_ lose part of a Word document when they handle it on a
> Window box?
> 
> Ouch!

Yep. It's the meta data that Word stores in streams that will get lost.

Jeremy.