From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jamie Lokier Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4 Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 23:45:13 +0100 Message-ID: <20040901224513.GM31934@mail.shareable.org> References: <200408290004.i7T04DEO003646@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, reiserfs-list@namesys.com Return-path: list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Errors-To: flx@namesys.com To: Horst von Brand Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200408290004.i7T04DEO003646@localhost.localdomain> List-Id: linux-fsdevel.vger.kernel.org Horst von Brand wrote: > Please do remember devfs: It sounded like a cool idea, got into the kernel > just to be thrown out later because nobody used it. Are you kidding? Lots of distros and many embedded Linuxes use devfs. And udev _still_ doesn't create device nodes properly. (Hint: I have to run two modprobe commands before pppd works. I have to run modprobe before openvpn or bochs work.) > What happened to "code talks, bullshit walks"? devfs is a fine example of why code isn't enough. With devfs the code came first, the >1 year of strategic bullshit politics from the "it's not traditional unix" crowd came later, then it went in, then lots of people used it, then it was replaced by something which still doesn't work as well as 2.4 does with or without devfs, and people are still using it despite it's faults. -- Jamie