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From: "David Dabbs" <david@dabbs.net>
To: <reiserfs-list@namesys.com>, <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [RFC] Pathname Semantics with //
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:49:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040910174518.1DAED15CE4@mail03.powweb.com> (raw)



> Jamie Lokier
> 
> David Dabbs wrote:
> 
> > Shooting from the hip here. If we want to unify namespaces in a 
> > UNIXy
> way,
> > what if we make the VFS expose all the non-file "protocol" 
> > namespaces through one mount point, device node or whatever. A 
> > filesystem, perhaps something built using FiST
[http://www.filesystems.org/], would "handle"
> a
> > protocol. Another, perhaps preferred, option is to steer in the
> direction of
> > Plan9, where ftp can be mounted and handled by a user-space 
> > filesystem, ftpfs.
> > See http://plan9.bell-labs.com/magic/man2html/4/ftpfs
> 
> You can already do it, something like this:
> 
>     mkdir /http:; mount none /http: -t uservfs -o view=http
>     mkdir /ftp:;  mount none /ftp:  -t uservfs -o view=ftp
> 
> I don't see any compelling reason to make "//" special for this.
> However, if there is such a reason, then you could just mount protocol 
> handlers on "//http:" and so on, and make "//" a normal directory with 
> a special name.
> 
> -- Jamie

Jamie, we _definitely_ agree, except apps that want to create links to URLs
will prepend one slash to the URL instead of two. Is your reference to
uservfs a "foo" reference or do you mean
http://sourceforge.net/projects/uservfs/? It looks a little dusty. But we
are pulling in the same direction.

The /file: node could simply be a symlink. Thus we have

      cd /
      ln -s / file:
      mkdir http:; mount none /http: -t uservfs -o view=http
      mkdir ftp:;  mount none /ftp:  -t uservfs -o view=ftp
      #etc...

Pathnames would be resolved with the existing code in namei.c. I can
understand mounting a URL whose protocol looks like a fs tree (e.g. ftp),
but http? Namei() parses the pathname one component at a time, checks the
dcache, and goes to the fs when that fails. Let's trace through how a URL
might get resolved. 

      ln -s /http://sourceforge.net/projects/uservfs
      cat uservfs

Pathname would be resolved as 

      /http:          
      sourceforge.net/
      projects/
      uservfs

I need to look closer at namei (or the uservfs code if it really supports a
view=http). As long as a fs can generate meaningful, stateful values in
response to VFS calls to real_lookup(), then this may work. 


David

             reply	other threads:[~2004-09-10 17:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-10 17:49 David Dabbs [this message]
2004-09-09 18:03 ` [RFC] Pathname Semantics with // Hans Reiser
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-09-09 10:41 David Dabbs
2004-09-08 16:13 ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-09 16:36   ` Peter Foldiak
2004-09-09 19:21   ` David Dabbs
2004-09-10  0:49     ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-10  3:06       ` David Dabbs
2004-09-10  5:40         ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-09 21:51   ` David Dabbs
2004-09-09  6:10     ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-09 17:33 ` Christian Mayrhuber
2004-09-09 20:17   ` David Dabbs
2004-09-09 20:41     ` Andreas Dilger
2004-09-10  9:11       ` Markus   Törnqvist
2004-09-10 10:37     ` Christian Mayrhuber
2004-09-09 23:03   ` Jamie Lokier
2004-09-10  1:37     ` David Dabbs
2004-09-10 11:47       ` Christian Mayrhuber
2004-09-10 11:06     ` Christian Mayrhuber

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