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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Bryan Henderson <hbryan@us.ibm.com>
Cc: "Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Mike Waychison <Michael.Waychison@Sun.COM>
Subject: Re: DEVFS_FS
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 18:28:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041117182834.GA6999@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OFC79B70FC.F87418BC-ON85256F4F.0060DFEC-88256F4F.0064712C@us.ibm.com>

Bryan Henderson wrote:
> >In other words, if /dev were auto-generated based on all available
> >hardware
> 
> Bear in mind that "all available hardware" may be a set completely 
> impossible to ascertain.  Consider a computer attached to the Internet 
> that uses ISCSI devices.  There would need to be a /dev entry for every 
> ISCSI logical unit on the Internet.

I agree, that is neither feasible nor useful.
That's what I meant by the qualifier "to the extent that is possible".

We have the same problem with virtual filesystems like httpfs or
bittorrentfs: You can't list files in them, except for files the
system already knows about.

> I find the strategies fall into two major categories:  1) addressing; and 
> 2) discovery.  With addressing, the user identifies the device in such a 
> way that the system knows everything it needs to find it (or find that no 
> such device exists).  Like identifying a web page by URL.  With discovery, 
> the user identifies the device in a way that doesn't suggest how to reach 
> it, like identifying a tape drive by the volume ID of the currently 
> mounted tape.

That's a useful distinction to highlight.  There are devices that only
work nicely in one or other model.

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2004-11-17 18:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-16  6:09 DEVFS_FS Adam J. Richter
2004-11-16 19:08 ` DEVFS_FS Mike Waychison
2004-11-16 19:26   ` DEVFS_FS Jamie Lokier
2004-11-16 19:42     ` DEVFS_FS Greg KH
2004-11-16 19:48     ` DEVFS_FS Mike Waychison
2004-11-17 18:19     ` DEVFS_FS Bryan Henderson
2004-11-17 18:28       ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2004-11-16 19:47 ` DEVFS_FS Bryan Henderson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-11-13 16:29 DEVFS_FS Adam J. Richter
2004-11-15 19:35 ` DEVFS_FS Bryan Henderson
2004-11-11 19:53 DEVFS_FS Adam J. Richter
2004-11-11 23:00 ` DEVFS_FS Bryan Henderson
2004-11-12  5:55   ` DEVFS_FS Jamie Lokier
2004-11-12 18:50     ` DEVFS_FS Bryan Henderson

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