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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Jan Hudec <bulb@ucw.cz>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>,
	Eric Van Hensbergen <ericvh@gmail.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Hiding secrets from root (Was: Re: [RFC][2.6 patch] Allow creation of new namespaces during mount system call)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:35:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050421203534.GA8793@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050421185216.GA23555@vagabond>

Jan Hudec wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 19:44:56 +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> > Jan Hudec wrote:
> > > By the way, IIRC so far the root can access all kernel memory too via
> > > /dev/kmem. So the limiting of root's rights would have to be limited
> > > a bit more yet.
> > 
> > On some hardened systems, root is not allowed access to /dev/kmem.
> 
> That sure makes sense. Still the secret keys must either never leave
> kernel (which would need all the encryption, decryption and checking
> code in kernel), or they must be protected in userland too. Which means
> the process has to be protected against being ptraced or inspected
> through /dev/mem.

That's right.  Protecting users' private data from access by the
administrators on a multi-user system is, not surprisingly, hard....

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-21 20:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-19 22:13 [RFC][2.6 patch] Allow creation of new namespaces during mount system call Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-04-19 22:23 ` Al Viro
2005-04-19 23:53   ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-04-20  3:33     ` Al Viro
2005-04-20  9:45       ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-20 10:27         ` Al Viro
2005-04-20 12:03           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-20 12:39             ` Al Viro
2005-04-20 16:51               ` Ram
2005-04-20 17:09                 ` Al Viro
2005-04-20 17:53                   ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                     ` <a4e6962a0504201107518416e9@mail.gmail.com>
2005-04-20 18:18                       ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-04-20 18:34                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-20 20:43                           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-20 20:54                             ` Al Viro
2005-04-20 22:16                               ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-20 21:08                     ` Al Viro
2005-04-20 22:19                       ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-20 18:00                   ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-04-20 18:33                   ` Ram
2005-04-20 22:04                     ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-30  8:56                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-30 15:01                         ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-11  9:05                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-21  7:33                   ` Mount bind filehandle (Was: Re: [RFC][2.6 patch] Allow creation of new namespaces during mount system call) Jan Hudec
2005-04-21  8:09                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-21  9:32                       ` Jan Hudec
2005-04-20 18:57                 ` [RFC][2.6 patch] Allow creation of new namespaces during mount system call Bryan Henderson
2005-04-20 19:37                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-21  0:08                     ` Bryan Henderson
2005-04-21  8:06                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-21 13:33                         ` [RFC][patch] mount permissions (was: [RFC][2.6 patch] Allow ...) Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-21 16:57                         ` [RFC][2.6 patch] Allow creation of new namespaces during mount system call Bryan Henderson
2005-04-20 20:51                   ` Al Viro
2005-04-21  0:23                     ` Bryan Henderson
2005-04-21  0:32                       ` Al Viro
2005-04-21  8:10                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-20 21:09                   ` Ram
2005-04-21  0:42                     ` Bryan Henderson
2005-04-21 19:10                       ` Ram
2005-04-20 18:25               ` Bryan Henderson
2005-04-20 12:48         ` Jan Hudec
2005-04-20 22:13           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-21 10:09             ` Jan Hudec
2005-04-21 18:44               ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-21 18:52                 ` Hiding secrets from root (Was: Re: [RFC][2.6 patch] Allow creation of new namespaces during mount system call) Jan Hudec
2005-04-21 20:35                   ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2005-04-20 13:14       ` [RFC][2.6 patch] Allow creation of new namespaces during mount system call Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-04-20 13:55         ` Eric Van Hensbergen

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