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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: ritesh@cs.unc.edu
Cc: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
	John Stoffel <john@stoffel.org>,
	"Artem B. Bityuckiy" <dedekind@oktetlabs.ru>,
	Ville Herva <v@iki.fi>,
	Linux Filesystem Development <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: filesystem transactions API
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:50:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050426155006.GD14297@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fc67f8b705042608296e4abcb8@mail.gmail.com>

Ritesh Kumar wrote:
> I was wondering if it was also important to commit the changes to
> persistent storage once the transaction has been completed or is it
> just important that all processes see the changes atomically. I mean,
> is it also important that before any of the processes see the result
> of the transaction, or before the 'transacting' process knows the
> transaction is complete, the changes must be flushed to persistent
> storage? That would be all the more reason to implement it in kernel
> space...

They are different kinds of transaction, that's all.  The kernel could
provide either kind, or both.

A logical way to offer both would be to include
fsync/fdatasync/fdatasync_range operations in a transaction.

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-26 15:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-24 20:08 [PATCH] private mounts Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-24 20:13 ` Al Viro
2005-04-24 20:45   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-24 20:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-24 20:50   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-24 20:54     ` Al Viro
2005-04-24 20:59       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-24 21:06         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-24 21:12           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-24 21:06         ` Al Viro
2005-04-24 21:15           ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-24 21:19             ` Al Viro
2005-04-24 21:29               ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-24 21:39                 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-25  7:10                 ` Jan Hudec
2005-04-25  9:58                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-25 11:45                     ` Jan Hudec
2005-04-30  8:35                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-30  9:25                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-30  9:42                         ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-30 10:14                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-30 14:36                             ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-30 15:59                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-30 16:42                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-30 17:07                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-30 18:20                                     ` Olivier Galibert
2005-04-30 23:58                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-01  2:39                                         ` Ram
2005-04-30 23:54                                     ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-01  5:56                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-01  6:39                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-01 15:41                                         ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-05-11  9:00                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-11 10:42                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-24 21:43               ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-25  7:14                 ` Jan Hudec
2005-04-27  9:14                 ` Helge Hafting
2005-04-25  9:48               ` Olivier Galibert
2005-04-25 16:37                 ` Tim Hockin
2005-04-30  8:37                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-25 21:09               ` Bryan Henderson
2005-04-26 13:46                 ` filesystem transactions API Ville Herva
2005-04-26 14:14                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-26 14:22                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-04-26 14:32                       ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-26 14:46                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-04-26 15:19                           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-26 15:01                         ` John Stoffel
2005-04-26 15:12                           ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-04-26 15:19                           ` Trond Myklebust
2005-04-26 15:29                             ` Ritesh Kumar
2005-04-26 15:50                               ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2005-04-26 16:44                               ` Trond Myklebust
2005-04-26 22:44                               ` Bryan Henderson
2005-04-26 15:47                             ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-26 15:51                               ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-04-26 15:56                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-26 16:01                                   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-04-27  9:14                                     ` Jan Hudec
2005-04-26 15:24                           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-26 17:22                             ` Diego Calleja
2005-04-26 17:38                               ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-27  9:34                             ` Jan Hudec
2005-04-27 13:43                               ` Ville Herva
2005-04-27 15:17                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-26 15:40                       ` Charles P. Wright
2005-04-26 16:07                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-04-26 17:22                           ` Charles P. Wright
2005-04-27  9:37                         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-04-27 13:36                       ` Andi Kleen
2005-04-26 14:25                   ` Trond Myklebust
2005-04-24 21:38           ` [PATCH] private mounts Jamie Lokier
2005-04-24 22:20             ` Ram
2005-04-24 22:22               ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-25  6:00             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-25  6:41               ` Ram
2005-04-25  9:55                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-25  7:22               ` Jan Hudec
2005-04-25 10:08                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-25 15:20             ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-25 19:07               ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-26  9:29                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-26 14:07                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-28 13:28                     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-04-28 19:22                       ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-28 13:47                     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-04-28 19:20                       ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-28 19:39                         ` Ram
2005-04-28 22:08                           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-29  7:57                             ` Ram
2005-04-29 14:13                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-29 14:42                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-29 14:50                                   ` Question about current->namespace and check_mnt() Jamie Lokier
2005-04-30  8:33                 ` [PATCH] private mounts Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-30 16:47                   ` Ram

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