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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no, dhowells@redhat.com,
	linuxram@us.ibm.com, viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk,
	akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fix race in mark_mounts_for_expiry()
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 13:50:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050518125041.GA29107@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1DYMn1-0000kp-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>

Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > Some archs already have an atomic_dec_if_positive() (see for instance
> > the PPC). It won't take much work to convert that to an
> > atomic_inc_if_positive().
> > 
> > For those arches that don't have that sort of thing, then writing a
> > generic atomic_inc_if_positive() using cmpxchg() will often be possible,
> > but there are exceptions (for instance the original 386 does not have a
> > cmpxchg, so there you will have to use something else).
> 
> The problem with introducing architecture specific code, is that it's
> just asking for new bugs.
> 
> If it's something used all over the kernel, than obviously it's OK,
> but for the sake of just one caller it's a bit crazy I think.

I agree.

And I think you're just adding to the case for removing mnt_namespace
entirely.  We'd still keep CLONE_NS, and users currently using
namespaces (in the normal ways) would see no difference.

mnt_namespace has these visible effects:

    - Prevents some tasks from mounting/umounting in a "foreign"
      namespace, even when they are granted access to the directory
      tree of the foreign namespace.

      It's not clear if the restriction is a useful security tool.

    - Causes every mount in a mount tree to be detached (independently),
      when last task associated with a namespace is destroyed.

And this invisible effect:

    - More concurrency than a global mount lock would have.

Is that all?  Are any of these effects important enough to keep?

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-18 12:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-13 10:44 [PATCH] namespace.c: fix bind mount from foreign namespace Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13 16:49 ` Ram
2005-05-13 17:06 ` Al Viro
2005-05-13 17:17   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13 17:25     ` Al Viro
2005-05-13 17:34       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13 17:29     ` Ram
2005-05-13 18:40       ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]         ` <1116012287.6248.410.camel@localhost>
     [not found]           ` <E1DWfqJ-0004eP-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
     [not found]             ` <1116013840.6248.429.camel@localhost>
2005-05-14  6:11               ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-16 15:11                 ` Ram
2005-05-16  8:44                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-16  8:59                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-16 11:26                     ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-16 13:23                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-16 11:14                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-17  3:50                     ` Ram
2005-05-16 20:15                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-17  1:28                         ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-17  5:34                           ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                             ` <1116360352.24560.85.camel@localhost>
     [not found]                               ` <E1DYI0m-0000K5-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
     [not found]                                 ` <1116399887.24560.116.camel@localhost>
     [not found]                                   ` <1116400118.24560.119.camel@localhost>
2005-05-18  9:51                                     ` [PATCH] fix race in mark_mounts_for_expiry() Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 10:32                                     ` David Howells
2005-05-18 10:37                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 10:46                                       ` David Howells
2005-05-18 10:53                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 11:07                                           ` Trond Myklebust
2005-05-18 11:32                                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 12:50                                               ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2005-05-18 13:21                                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 17:34                                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-18 19:05                                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 19:52                                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-19 12:41                                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 10:59                                         ` David Howells
2005-05-18 11:14                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 11:51                                         ` David Howells
2005-05-18 12:08                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 12:33                                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 16:53                                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 18:47                                                 ` Ram
2005-05-18 19:19                                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 20:35                                                     ` Ram
2005-05-19 12:52                                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-17 18:48                         ` [PATCH] namespace.c: fix bind mount from foreign namespace Ram
2005-05-17  0:00                       ` Jamie Lokier

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