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From: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
To: Bryan Henderson <hbryan@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Paul Taysom <Paul.Taysom@novell.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, viro@www.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: negative seek offsets in VFS
Date: 26 May 2005 21:23:32 +0200
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 21:23:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050526192332.GW86087@muc.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OF71D8EA4F.087D140F-ON8825700D.00613961-8825700D.0061F567@us.ibm.com>

On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 10:49:57AM -0700, Bryan Henderson wrote:
> >The addresses returned from /proc/kallsyms on the x86_64 are negative and 
> when
> >I print the address of a kernel variable with "%p" it comes out negative.
> 
> Wow.  So can someone explain this?  Does the x86_64 architecture actually 
> have a concept of negative addresses?

Yes, it has. It has a 48bit address space, and the 48th bit 
is sign extended to 64bits. So you have a big hole in the middle
and positive and negative address spaces. The kernel uses the negative
half, user space the positive half.

> 
> Ordinarily, I'd think this was a bug if I saw it, but I don't see how %p 
> could format a minus sign without it being deliberate.

It doesnt, but they are still negative. 
 
> In any case, I know POSIX doesn't have a concept of a negative absolute 
> file offset, so a kmem device cannot represent a negative address as a 
> negative file offset.  A negative loff_t means something else.

I dont think POSIX has anything to say about /dev/kmem.

-Andi
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-26 19:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <s29588e0.089@sinclair.provo.novell.com>
2005-05-26 17:49 ` negative seek offsets in VFS Bryan Henderson
2005-05-26 19:23   ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2005-05-26 21:17     ` Bryan Henderson
2005-05-27 10:43       ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-27 18:39         ` Bryan Henderson
2005-05-28 12:41           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-31 18:08             ` Bryan Henderson
2005-05-30  9:36           ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-31 18:33             ` Bryan Henderson
2005-05-28 12:37         ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-30  9:32           ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-26 14:29 Paul Taysom
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-05-25 16:39 Andi Kleen
2005-05-25 16:56 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-05-25 18:48   ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-26  0:56 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-05-26 19:20   ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-26 15:15 ` Al Viro
2005-05-26 15:29   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-26 19:25     ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-26 19:39       ` Linus Torvalds

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