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From: serue@us.ibm.com
To: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Cc: Janak Desai <janak@us.ibm.com>,
	viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk, sds@tycho.nsa.gov,
	linuxram@us.ibm.com, ericvh@gmail.com, dwalsh@redhat.com,
	jmorris@redhat.com, akpm@osdl.org, torvalds@osdl.org,
	gh@us.ibm.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] New system call, unshare
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:18:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050810141849.GA5639@serge.austin.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878xz9dgv4.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de>

Quoting Florian Weimer (fw@deneb.enyo.de):
> * Janak Desai:
> 
> > With unshare, namespace setup can be done using PAM session
> > management functions without patching individual commands.
> 
> I don't think it's a good idea to use security-critical code well

Note that this patch is not removing the CAP_SYS_ADMIN requirement,
just allowing the operation to happen outside of clone().  Unlike
domain transitions in selinux, which should be tied to exec() so
as to tie them to known code, I don't see what clone() would provide
in terms of safety which we are losing.

> without its original specification.  Clearly the current situation
> sucks, but this is mainly a lack of PAM functionality, IMHO.

I'm not sure this is to do with PAM functionality, rather than
just its design.  Is there a way of "fixing" pam so that we don't
need unshare()?

thanks,
-serge

  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-10 14:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-08 13:28 [PATCH 0/3] New system call, unshare Janak Desai
2005-08-10 14:08 ` Florian Weimer
2005-08-10 14:18   ` serue [this message]
2005-08-10 15:05     ` Janak Desai
2005-08-23  6:18   ` Al Viro

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