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From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: David Teigland <teigland@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-cluster@redhat.com
Subject: Re: GFS, what's remaining
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 01:54:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050905055428.GA29158@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050904203344.GA1987@elf.ucw.cz>

On Sun, Sep 04, 2005 at 10:33:44PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > - read-only mount
> > - "specatator" mount (like ro but no journal allocated for the mount,
> >   no fencing needed for failed node that was mounted as specatator)
> 
> I'd call it "real-read-only", and yes, that's very usefull
> mount. Could we get it for ext3, too?

This is a bit of a degression, but it's quite a bit different from
what ocfs2 is doing, where it is not necessary to replay the journal
in order to assure filesystem consistency.  

In the ext3 case, the only time when read-only isn't quite read-only
is when the filesystem was unmounted uncleanly and the journal needs
to be replayed in order for the filesystem to be consistent.  Mounting
the filesystem read-only without replaying the journal could and very
likely would result in the filesystem reporting filesystem consistency
problems, and if the filesystem is mounted with the reboot-on-errors
option, well....

							- Ted

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-09-05  6:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-01 10:46 GFS, what's remaining David Teigland
2005-09-01 10:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-01 10:59 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-01 14:49   ` Alan Cox
2005-09-01 14:27     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-01 15:28       ` Alan Cox
2005-09-01 15:11         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-09-01 17:56         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-02  7:04           ` David Teigland
2005-09-01 17:23     ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-01 20:21     ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-02 21:17       ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-02 23:03         ` Bryan Henderson
2005-09-03  0:16         ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-03  6:42           ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-03  6:46             ` Wim Coekaerts
2005-09-03 22:21               ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04  1:09                 ` [Linux-cluster] " Joel Becker
2005-09-04  1:32                   ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  3:06                     ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  4:22                       ` [Linux-cluster] " Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04  4:30                         ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  4:51                           ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04  5:00                             ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  5:52                               ` [Linux-cluster] " Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04  5:56                                 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  4:46                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  4:58                           ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  5:41                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  5:49                               ` Joel Becker
2005-09-05  4:30                               ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  8:54                                 ` [Linux-cluster] " Andrew Morton
2005-09-05  9:24                                   ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  9:19                                     ` [Linux-cluster] " Andrew Morton
2005-09-05  9:30                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-05  9:48                                       ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 12:21                                       ` Alan Cox
2005-09-05 19:53                                         ` [Linux-cluster] " Andrew Morton
2005-09-05 23:20                                           ` Alan Cox
2005-09-05 23:06                                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-14  9:01                                         ` [Linux-cluster] " Patrick Caulfield
2005-09-05 19:11                                     ` kurt.hackel
2005-09-04  6:10                           ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-04  7:23                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  8:17                               ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-04  8:37                                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  6:40                           ` [Linux-cluster] " Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04  7:28                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  8:01                               ` [Linux-cluster] " Joel Becker
2005-09-04  8:18                                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  9:11                                   ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  9:18                                     ` [Linux-cluster] " Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  9:39                                       ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04 18:03                                     ` [Linux-cluster] " Hua Zhong
2005-09-04 19:51                               ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04  7:12                           ` Hua Zhong
2005-09-04  8:37                           ` Alan Cox
2005-09-05 23:32                             ` Joel Becker
2005-09-03  5:57         ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-05 14:14           ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-09-05 15:49             ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-05 16:18               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06  0:57                 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06  2:03                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06  4:02                     ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06  4:07                       ` GFS, what's remainingh Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06  4:58                         ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06  5:05                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06  6:48                             ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06  6:55                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06  7:18                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 14:31                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06 13:42                               ` Alan Cox
2005-09-03  7:06         ` GFS, what's remaining Wim Coekaerts
2005-09-06 12:55         ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2005-09-03  5:18       ` David Teigland
2005-09-03  6:14         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-03  6:42           ` D. Hazelton
2005-09-03 10:35           ` David Teigland
2005-09-03 20:56             ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04 20:33         ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-04 22:18           ` Joel Becker
2005-09-05  5:54           ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2005-09-05  7:09             ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-05 14:07               ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-05  8:27             ` real read-only [was Re: GFS, what's remaining] Pavel Machek
2005-09-05 14:03               ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-05 10:44           ` Re: GFS, what's remaining Stephen C. Tweedie
2005-09-05 16:41             ` Greg Freemyer
2005-09-01 11:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-02  9:44   ` David Teigland
2005-09-02 11:46     ` Jörn Engel
2005-09-03  5:28     ` Greg KH
2005-09-05  3:47       ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  8:58         ` Jörn Engel
2005-09-05  9:18           ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  5:43   ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  6:32     ` Pekka Enberg
2005-09-05  7:55       ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  8:00         ` Pekka Enberg
2005-09-10 10:11     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-05  6:29   ` David Teigland
2005-09-08  5:41   ` David Teigland
2005-09-01 12:33 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-09-01 17:27 ` Daniel Phillips

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