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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: akpm@osdl.org, neilb@cse.unsw.edu.au, andros@citi.umich.edu,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: NFS4 crack
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 09:35:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050919133528.GA20732@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050919103547.GA8998@lst.de>

On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 12:35:47PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> Namespaces issues above was meant as kernel can't assume namespace at
> all, not even thinking about multiple namespaces which makes it even
> more wrong.  Who sais I allow the kernel to mess with
> /var/lib/nfs/v4recover?

It's run-time configurable if you don't like the default.

> Who tells any userspace process is even in the same namespace as the
> nfs threads to create the directories?

No userspace process is likely to care, except maybe for debugging
purposes.  This isn't a userspace<->kernel interface, it's just a way to
store some information on disk so nfsd can find it again on next boot.

> Kernel assuming any namespace is wrong and we don't do it anywhere.

Well, nfsd does have some assumptions--mountd, exportfs, and nfsd all
have to be in the same namespace, for example.  (Or at least namespaces
that are identical on exported paths.)

> > > The fs handling in fs/nfs/nfs4recovery.c is rather broken in addition.
> > 
> > For example?
> 
>  - opens a directory O_RDWR which open_namei wouldn't even allow
>  - tries to build dentry list from vfs_readdir callback, leading to
>    deadlocks on filesystems that take the same lock from readdir
>    and lookup
>  - resets fsuid/fsgids without checks, synchronization or callouts
>    into subsystems that care (security, keys, ptrace)
>  - looks up /var/lib/nfs/v4recovery without ensuring it's a directory
>  
> and probably a few more if one tried to look at it for more than five
> minutes.

Are you sure about readdir?  It looks to me like nfsd has done lookups
there for some time--see, e.g., fs/nfsd/nfs3xdr.c:compose_entry_fh().

But I'll read through it again and check the other stuff you mention,
thanks.

--b.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-09-19 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-18 10:21 NFS4 crack Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-18 14:36 ` J. Bruce Fields
2005-09-19 10:35   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19 13:04     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-09-19 13:35     ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2005-09-19 13:39       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19 14:07         ` J. Bruce Fields
2005-09-19 14:11           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19 17:13         ` Bryan Henderson
2005-09-19 17:16           ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-09-19 21:57             ` Bryan Henderson
2005-09-19 22:11               ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-09-20  0:17                 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-09-19 18:02           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19 18:53             ` William A.(Andy) Adamson
2005-09-19 18:59               ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19 22:04               ` Bryan Henderson
2005-09-19 19:01             ` J. Bruce Fields
2005-09-19 19:05               ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19 20:31     ` J. Bruce Fields
2005-09-20 12:49       ` Greg KH
2005-09-20 15:10         ` William A.(Andy) Adamson
2005-09-20 18:37 ` Neil Brown
2005-09-21  7:44   ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-22 20:58     ` William A.(Andy) Adamson
2005-09-21 13:41   ` Trond Myklebust
2005-09-21 14:40   ` J. Bruce Fields
2005-09-22 16:28   ` Bryan Henderson
2005-09-22 16:52     ` Trond Myklebust
2005-09-22 17:38       ` Peter Staubach
2005-09-22 17:52         ` Trond Myklebust
2005-09-22 18:07           ` Peter Staubach
2005-09-22 21:08             ` Bryan Henderson
2005-09-23 12:17               ` Peter Staubach
2005-09-23 20:50                 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-09-23 21:02                   ` NFS4 crack\ Al Viro
2005-09-26 16:29                     ` Bryan Henderson
2005-09-26 17:13                       ` Peter Staubach
2005-09-22 21:48             ` NFS4 crack Nicholas Miell
2005-09-22 22:50             ` Greg Banks
2005-09-22 21:19         ` Bryan Henderson

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