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From: "William A.(Andy) Adamson" <andros@citi.umich.edu>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Bryan Henderson <hbryan@us.ibm.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	akpm@osdl.org, andros@citi.umich.edu,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, neilb@cse.unsw.edu.au
Subject: Re: NFS4 crack
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 14:53:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050919185336.758321BB7B@citi.umich.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050919180240.GA26470@infradead.org>

> On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 10:13:49AM -0700, Bryan Henderson wrote:
> > >FILENAMES ARE POLICY AND HAVE NO BUSINESS IN THE KERNEL
> > 
> > I think that's a great policy, but we can't be all that righteous about it 
> > because we don't do it today.  I have a system that has highly customized 
> > file names, so I'm pretty familiar with all the world's hardcoded file 
> > names.  ISTR the Linux kernel hardcodes /sbin/init, /bin/sh, and 
> > /sbin/modprobe.
> 
> They are not nice, but quite a bit different, as we are trying to execute
> them, which can't have bad side-effects in case they don't exist.
> 
> What nfsd does is expecting a directory to be present on which it can
> do various operations.  That's much worse then trying to execute or 
> even read from a file.

what we could do is not provide a default, and turn off reboot recovery (no 
grace period) if the recovery directory is not configured.

> Besides that all this directory handling really
> belongs into userland as pointed out _three times_ now.

We were anticipating placing data into files in the recovery directory at each 
OPEN and each LOCK call in order to limit the scope of the NFSv4 grace period 
to the state that was actually in use prior to the reboot. We therefore went 
ahead with a kernel implementation for performance reasons.


-->Andy






  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-19 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-18 10:21 NFS4 crack Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-18 14:36 ` J. Bruce Fields
2005-09-19 10:35   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19 13:04     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-09-19 13:35     ` J. Bruce Fields
2005-09-19 13:39       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19 14:07         ` J. Bruce Fields
2005-09-19 14:11           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19 17:13         ` Bryan Henderson
2005-09-19 17:16           ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-09-19 21:57             ` Bryan Henderson
2005-09-19 22:11               ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-09-20  0:17                 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-09-19 18:02           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19 18:53             ` William A.(Andy) Adamson [this message]
2005-09-19 18:59               ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19 22:04               ` Bryan Henderson
2005-09-19 19:01             ` J. Bruce Fields
2005-09-19 19:05               ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-19 20:31     ` J. Bruce Fields
2005-09-20 12:49       ` Greg KH
2005-09-20 15:10         ` William A.(Andy) Adamson
2005-09-20 18:37 ` Neil Brown
2005-09-21  7:44   ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-22 20:58     ` William A.(Andy) Adamson
2005-09-21 13:41   ` Trond Myklebust
2005-09-21 14:40   ` J. Bruce Fields
2005-09-22 16:28   ` Bryan Henderson
2005-09-22 16:52     ` Trond Myklebust
2005-09-22 17:38       ` Peter Staubach
2005-09-22 17:52         ` Trond Myklebust
2005-09-22 18:07           ` Peter Staubach
2005-09-22 21:08             ` Bryan Henderson
2005-09-23 12:17               ` Peter Staubach
2005-09-23 20:50                 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-09-23 21:02                   ` NFS4 crack\ Al Viro
2005-09-26 16:29                     ` Bryan Henderson
2005-09-26 17:13                       ` Peter Staubach
2005-09-22 21:48             ` NFS4 crack Nicholas Miell
2005-09-22 22:50             ` Greg Banks
2005-09-22 21:19         ` Bryan Henderson

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