From: "John T. Kohl" <jtk@us.ibm.com>
To: "Charles P. Wright" <cwright@cs.sunysb.edu>
Cc: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@trondhjem.org>, <dhowells@redhat.com>,
nfsv4 <nfsv4@linux-nfs.org>,
fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Support for stackable file systems on top of nfs
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 12:38:08 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200511111738.jABHc8jw002938@sumu.lexma.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1131722845.10610.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> (cwright@cs.sunysb.edu)
>>>>> "Charles" == Charles P Wright <cwright@cs.sunysb.edu> writes:
Charles> On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 08:45 -0500, John T. Kohl wrote:
>> Other than i_mapping/f_mapping, I don't think it's possible right now
>> for stacking file systems to handle the address_space operations in our
>> layer *and* share the same pages with the backing-store, since the struct
>> pages are attached to the address space via file->f_mapping.
Charles> At Stony Brook, we've come across similar problems. It is relatively
Charles> easy to double cache, but inefficient. It is also relatively easy to
Charles> single-cache, but then you don't get to intercept any of these
Charles> interesting operations. Getting both at once is tricky.
We currently do single-caching, by passing on the mmap operation to the
backing store (swapping in the backing store file for vma->vm_file).
(We do the equivalent in our MVFS built for vnode kernels.) Swapping
the vm file is mostly workable, but we do have to be a bit too
knowledgable about the innards of file mapping and do some things to
accomodate the actions taken after fop->mmap is called.
However, it does mean that things like /proc/<pid>/exe show the
backing-store file name not the upper-level name. That screws up some
programs like Java which use /proc/self/exe to find their environment,
since our backing-store directory layout is nothing like the upper-level
layout.
--
John Kohl
Senior Software Engineer - Rational Software - IBM Software Group
Lexington, Massachusetts, USA
jtk@us.ibm.com
<http://www.ibm.com/software/rational/>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-11 17:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-10 17:32 [RFC] Support for stackable file systems on top of nfs Dave Kleikamp
2005-11-10 20:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-11-10 21:35 ` John T. Kohl
2005-11-10 21:40 ` Shaya Potter
2005-11-10 21:57 ` John T. Kohl
2005-11-10 21:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-11-11 2:31 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-11 4:04 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-11 13:45 ` John T. Kohl
2005-11-11 15:27 ` Charles P. Wright
2005-11-11 17:38 ` John T. Kohl [this message]
2005-11-14 15:56 ` David Howells
2005-11-10 21:24 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-10 21:36 ` Shaya Potter
2005-11-10 22:18 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-10 22:27 ` Shaya Potter
2005-11-10 22:40 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-11 0:12 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-11-11 1:30 ` Brad Boyer
2005-11-11 2:06 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-11 18:18 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-11-11 19:22 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-11 21:57 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-11-11 22:41 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-14 19:02 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-11-11 16:40 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-11-11 18:45 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-11-11 19:31 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-11-11 19:42 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-11 23:13 ` Bryan Henderson
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-14 0:44 Nikolai Joukov
2005-11-14 16:02 ` David Howells
2005-11-14 20:48 ` Erez Zadok
2005-11-14 21:13 ` John T. Kohl
2005-11-14 21:32 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-11-14 16:11 ` John T. Kohl
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