From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/18] shared mount handling: bind and rbind
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:29:03 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200511152129.04079.rob@landley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0511091054290.3247@g5.osdl.org>
On Wednesday 09 November 2005 12:59, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > no. I said application _should_not_ depend on it, because it is a
> > undefined semantics.
>
> It's definitely neither unusual nor undefined. I do all my umounts by
> directory (in fact, doing it by anything else really _is_ badly defined,
> since a block device can be mounted in many places), and the only sane
> semantics would be to peel off the last mount on that directory.
I noticed this upgrading busybox mount a few months back. I was trying to
figure out if the correct semantics for umount /dev/block were to umount
_all_ instances of this block device, or umount just the most recent one. I
wound up just passing it through to the kernel and letting it decide, but I
wasn't sure why it did what it did.
The 2.6 multiple mount semantics are still new enough that the tools are just
now catching up. Last I checked, the standard mount was kind of unhappy with
--bind and --move mounts (they were corrupting /etc/mtab):
http://www.busybox.net/lists/busybox/2005-August/015285.html
The side effects of mount can be really non-obvious at times. For example,
while implementing busybox's switch_root I found out that this snippet of
klibc's run-init.c is slightly wrong:
if ( chdir(realroot) )
die("chdir to new root");
/* snip */
/* Overmount the root */
if ( mount(".", "/", NULL, MS_MOVE, NULL) )
die("overmounting root");
/* chroot, chdir */
if ( chroot(".") || chdir("/") )
die("chroot");
The || fallback in the third part won't work. chroot(".") will get you to the
new filesystem, but chdir("/") still gets you to the old one, even though
we've overmounted it. (I have no idea why. I assume it's because / is
special.)
Rob
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-16 3:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-08 2:01 [PATCH 12/18] shared mount handling: bind and rbind Al Viro
2005-11-08 14:11 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-11-08 15:48 ` Ram Pai
2005-11-08 15:55 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-11-09 18:44 ` Ram Pai
2005-11-09 18:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-09 19:26 ` Al Viro
2005-11-09 19:28 ` Ram Pai
2005-11-16 3:29 ` Rob Landley [this message]
2005-11-16 3:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-16 5:35 ` Al Boldi
2005-11-16 8:19 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-11-16 9:10 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-16 10:14 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-11-16 13:59 ` Shaya Potter
2005-11-16 16:35 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-11-16 20:05 ` Al Boldi
2005-11-16 20:21 ` Shaya Potter
2005-11-16 8:47 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-16 8:41 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-16 16:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-09 10:54 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-11-09 14:31 ` Al Viro
2005-11-09 15:22 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-11-09 15:56 ` Al Viro
2005-11-09 16:33 ` Miklos Szeredi
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