From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: a1426z@gawab.com, torvalds@osdl.org, linuxram@us.ibm.com,
viro@ftp.linux.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/18] shared mount handling: bind and rbind
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 03:10:24 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200511160310.24807.rob@landley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1EcIVw-0005ZH-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 02:19, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > > This is why we have "pivot_root()" and "chroot()", which can both be
> > > used to do what you want to do. You mount the new root somewhere else,
> > > and then you chroot (or pivot-root) to it. And THEN you do 'chdir("/")'
> > > to move the cwd into the new root too (and only at that point have you
> > > "lost" the old root - although you can actually get it back if you have
> > > some file descriptor open to it).
> >
> > Wouldn't this constitute a security flaw?
> >
> > Shouldn't chroot jail you?
>
> No, chroot should just change the root.
>
> If you don't want to be able to get back the old root, just close all
> file descriptors _in addition_ to chroot() and chdir().
If you try the chdir by filedescriptor trick on the stdin/stdout/stderr fed
into PID 1 when it's started up by the kernel, which filesystem do you wind
up in? (rootfs?)
I ask because switch_root redoes those to point to /dev/console from the real
root (presumably for security reasons), and this happens _before_ the init on
the real root gets called, and thus before the real root gets to populate
its' own dynamic /dev.
I suppose initramfs could make a temporary /dev, do the mknods for console and
the real root, and then mount --move this tmpdir to the real root's /dev once
that's available (and then let the real root's udev populate it the rest of
the way). Or the real root could have a hard /dev/console living in the
directory that's going to get overmounted by tmpfs later. Or just leave
initramfs accessible until init can switch consoles...
Sigh. I need to document the requirements here...
Rob
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-16 9:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-08 2:01 [PATCH 12/18] shared mount handling: bind and rbind Al Viro
2005-11-08 14:11 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-11-08 15:48 ` Ram Pai
2005-11-08 15:55 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-11-09 18:44 ` Ram Pai
2005-11-09 18:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-09 19:26 ` Al Viro
2005-11-09 19:28 ` Ram Pai
2005-11-16 3:29 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-16 3:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-16 5:35 ` Al Boldi
2005-11-16 8:19 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-11-16 9:10 ` Rob Landley [this message]
2005-11-16 10:14 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-11-16 13:59 ` Shaya Potter
2005-11-16 16:35 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-11-16 20:05 ` Al Boldi
2005-11-16 20:21 ` Shaya Potter
2005-11-16 8:47 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-16 8:41 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-16 16:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-09 10:54 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-11-09 14:31 ` Al Viro
2005-11-09 15:22 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-11-09 15:56 ` Al Viro
2005-11-09 16:33 ` Miklos Szeredi
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