From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>
Cc: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] VM: I have a dream...
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:26:48 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060123222648.GB1739@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200601232103.07007.a1426z@gawab.com>
On Po 23-01-06 21:03:06, Al Boldi wrote:
> Robin Holt wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 09:08:41PM +0300, Al Boldi wrote:
> > >
> > > Wouldn't it be nice to take advantage of todays 64bit archs and TB
> > > drives, and run a more modern way of life w/o this memory/storage split
> > > personality?
> >
> > Your simple world introduces a level of complexity to the kernel which
> > is nearly unmanageable. Basically, you are asking the system to intuit
> > your desires. The swap device/file scheme allows an administrator to
> > control some aspects of their system while giving the kernel developer
> > a reasonable number of variables to work with. That, at least to me,
> > does not sound schizophrenic, but rather very reasonable.
> >
> > Sorry for raining on your parade,
>
> Thanks for your detailed response, it rather felt like a fresh breeze.
>
> Really, I was more thinking about a step by step rather than an all or none
> approach. Something that would involve tmpfs merged with swap mapped into
> linear address space limited by arch bits, and everything else connected as
> archive.
>
> The idea here is to run inside swap instead of using it as an addon.
> In effect running inside memory cached by physical RAM.
And if you do not want to run inside swap? For example because your
machine has only RAM? This will not fly.
Having dreams is nice, but please avoid sharing them unless they come
with patches attached.
Pavel
--
Thanks, Sharp!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-01-23 22:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-01-21 18:08 [RFC] VM: I have a dream Al Boldi
2006-01-21 18:42 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-21 18:46 ` Avi Kivity
2006-01-23 19:52 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-25 22:04 ` Al Boldi
2006-01-26 19:18 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-27 16:12 ` Al Boldi
2006-01-27 19:17 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-30 13:21 ` Al Boldi
2006-01-30 13:35 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-31 15:56 ` Al Boldi
2006-01-31 16:34 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-31 23:14 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-31 16:34 ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-01-31 19:23 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-02-01 4:06 ` Barry K. Nathan
2006-02-02 15:11 ` Alan Cox
2006-02-02 18:59 ` Al Boldi
2006-02-02 22:33 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-02-03 14:46 ` Alan Cox
2006-01-30 16:49 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-26 0:03 ` Jon Smirl
2006-01-26 19:48 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-22 8:16 ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-22 12:33 ` Robin Holt
2006-01-23 18:03 ` Al Boldi
2006-01-23 18:40 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-01-23 19:26 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-01-23 19:40 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-01-23 22:26 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2006-01-22 19:55 ` Barry K. Nathan
2006-01-23 5:23 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-23 5:46 ` Chase Venters
2006-01-23 8:20 ` Barry K. Nathan
2006-01-23 13:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-23 20:21 ` Peter Chubb
2006-01-23 15:05 ` Ram Gupta
2006-01-23 15:26 ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-23 16:11 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-01-23 16:50 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-24 2:08 ` Horst von Brand
2006-01-25 6:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-25 9:23 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-01-25 9:42 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-25 15:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-25 23:24 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-25 15:05 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-25 15:47 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-01-25 16:09 ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-25 17:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-26 19:13 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-25 23:28 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-26 1:29 ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-26 5:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-26 5:11 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-26 14:46 ` Dave Kleikamp
2006-01-24 2:10 ` Horst von Brand
2006-01-25 22:27 ` Nix
2006-01-26 15:13 ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-01-26 16:23 ` Nix
2006-01-23 20:43 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-23 22:42 ` Nikita Danilov
2006-01-24 14:36 ` Ram Gupta
2006-01-24 15:04 ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-24 20:59 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-24 15:11 ` Nikita Danilov
2006-01-23 22:57 ` Ram Gupta
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-02-01 13:58 Al Boldi
2006-02-01 14:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-02-02 12:26 ` Al Boldi
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