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From: Valerie Henson <val_henson@linux.intel.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
Cc: Ric Wheeler <ric@emc.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: topics for the file system mini-summit
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:24:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060601032418.GM10420@goober> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060601024247.GB32143@parisc-linux.org>

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 08:42:47PM -0600, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 07:19:09PM -0700, Valerie Henson wrote:
> > I don't think a block group is a good enough fault isolation domain -
> > think hard links.  What I think we need is normal file system
> > structures when you are referencing stuff inside your fault isolation
> > domain, and something more complicated if you have to reference stuff
> > outside.  One of Arjan's ideas involves something we're calling
> > continuation inodes - if the file's data is stored in multiple
> > domains, it has a separate continuation inode in each domain, and each
> > continuation inode has all the information necessary to run a full
> > fsck on the data inside that domain.  Similarly, if a directory has a
> > hard link to a file outside its domain, we'll have to allocate a
> > continuation inode and dir entry block in the domain containing the
> > file.  The idea is that you can run fsck on a domain without having to
> > go look outside that domain.  You may have to clean up a few things in
> > other domains, but they are easy to find and don't require an fsck in
> > other domains.
> 
> I don't quite get it.  Let's say we have directories A and B in domain A
> and domain B.  A file C is created in directory B and is thus allocated
> in domain B.  Now we create a link to file C in directory A, and remove
> the link from directory B.

All correct up to here...

> Presumably we have a continuation inode in
> domain A and an inode with no references to it in domain B.  How does
> fsck tell that there's a continuation inode in a different domain?

Actually, the continuation inode is in B.  When we create a link in
directory A to file C, a continuation inode for directory A is created
in domain B, and a block containing the link to file C is allocated
inside domain B as well.  So there is no continuation inode in domain
A.

That being said, this idea is at the hand-waving stage and probably
has many other (hopefully non-fatal) flaws.  Thanks for taking a look!

> Surely XFS must have a more elegant solution than this?

val@goober:/usr/src/linux-2.6.16.19$ wc -l `find fs/xfs/ -type f`
[snip]
 109083 total

:)

-VAL

  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-01  3:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-25 21:44 topics for the file system mini-summit Ric Wheeler
2006-05-26 16:48 ` Andreas Dilger
2006-05-27  0:49   ` Ric Wheeler
2006-05-27 14:18     ` Andreas Dilger
2006-05-28  1:44       ` Ric Wheeler
2006-05-29  0:11 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-05-29  2:07   ` Ric Wheeler
2006-05-29 16:09     ` Andreas Dilger
2006-05-29 19:29       ` Ric Wheeler
2006-05-30  6:14         ` Andreas Dilger
2006-06-07 10:10       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2006-06-07 14:03         ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-07 18:55         ` Andreas Dilger
2006-06-01  2:19 ` Valerie Henson
2006-06-01  2:42   ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-06-01  3:24     ` Valerie Henson [this message]
2006-06-01 12:45       ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-06-01 12:53         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-01 20:06         ` Russell Cattelan
2006-06-02 11:27         ` Nathan Scott
2006-06-01  5:36   ` Andreas Dilger
2006-06-03 13:50   ` Ric Wheeler
2006-06-03 14:13     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-03 15:07       ` Ric Wheeler

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