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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Alex Tomas <alex@clusterfs.com>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Ext3 online defrag
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:51:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061023145125.GD19623@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3vembnlwz.fsf@bzzz.home.net>

> >>>>> Theodore Tso (TT) writes:
> 
>  TT> On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 02:27:10PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
>  >> Hello,
>  >> 
>  >> I've written a simple patch implementing ext3 ioctl for file
>  >> relocation. Basically you call ioctl on a file, give it list of blocks
>  >> and it relocates the file into given blocks (provided they are still
>  >> free). The idea is to use it as a kernel part of ext3 online
>  >> defragmenter (or generally disk access optimizer). 
> 
> isn't that a kernel responsbility to find/allocate target blocks?
> wouldn't it better to specify desirable target group and minimal
> acceptable chunk of free blocks?
  Kernel definitely allocates those blocks (because it's the only
reasonably race-free way). The problem of finding those blocks is a bit
harder - it may be quite complicated decision where to put the file
(also given, that sometimes you may need to "shift away" some file to
make space for some other one). Also what I'm aiming for is, that
userspace defragmenter could be fed some "access patterns" and it
optimizes layout of several files to speedup startup (i.e. blocks of
those several files would be interleaved so that their sequence is close
to the one seen during start-up).

								Honza

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-10-23 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20061023122710.GA12034@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
2006-10-23 14:16 ` [RFC] Ext3 online defrag Theodore Tso
2006-10-23 14:31   ` Alex Tomas
2006-10-23 14:48     ` Andreas Dilger
2006-10-23 14:55       ` Jan Kara
2006-10-23 14:51     ` Jan Kara [this message]
2006-10-23 15:01     ` Eric Sandeen
2006-10-24  4:14     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-24 13:59       ` David Chinner
2006-10-24 14:51         ` Dave Kleikamp
2006-10-24 16:01           ` David Chinner
2006-10-24 16:26             ` Dave Kleikamp
2006-10-25  1:18               ` David Chinner
2006-10-25  2:30                 ` Barry Naujok
2006-10-25  2:42                   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-25  4:27                     ` David Chinner
2006-10-25  4:48                       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-25  5:38                         ` David Chinner
2006-10-25  6:01                           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-25  8:11                             ` David Chinner
2006-10-25 17:00                               ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-26  1:40                                 ` David Chinner
2006-10-26  3:33                                   ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-26  6:36                                     ` David Chinner
2006-10-26 13:37                                       ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-26 14:40                                         ` Dave Kleikamp
2006-10-26 11:37                                   ` Jan Kara
2006-10-27  1:32                                     ` David Chinner
2006-10-24 14:52         ` Eric Sandeen
2006-10-24 19:44         ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-24 20:31           ` Russell Cattelan
2006-10-24 23:00           ` Andreas Dilger
2006-10-25 14:54             ` Jan Kara
2006-10-25 17:02               ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-25 17:58                 ` Jan Kara
2006-10-25 18:08                   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-25 18:25                     ` Jan Kara
2006-10-25 18:33                       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-26  9:30               ` Andreas Dilger
2006-10-25  2:09           ` David Chinner
2006-10-23 14:45   ` Jan Kara
2006-10-23 15:14   ` Andreas Dilger
2006-10-23 16:03     ` Jan Kara
2006-10-23 17:29       ` Andreas Dilger
2006-10-25 18:36         ` Jan Kara
2006-10-25 18:41           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-26 15:25             ` Jörn Engel
2006-10-24  4:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-24  4:21 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-10-24 10:09   ` Jan Kara
2006-10-27  7:23 sho
2006-10-27  7:44 ` Alex Tomas
2006-10-27 13:53   ` Eric Sandeen
2006-10-27 14:05     ` Alex Tomas
2006-10-27 14:24       ` Eric Sandeen
2006-10-27 14:39         ` Alex Tomas
2006-11-15  9:54   ` Takashi Sato

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