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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Filesystems <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 9/9] mm: fix pagecache write deadlocks
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 01:44:45 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070204014445.88e6c8c7.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070204063833.23659.55105.sendpatchset@linux.site>

On Sun,  4 Feb 2007 09:51:07 +0100 (CET) Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de> wrote:

> 2.  If we find the destination page is non uptodate, unlock it (this could be
>     made slightly more optimal), then find and pin the source page with
>     get_user_pages. Relock the destination page and continue with the copy.
>     However, instead of a usercopy (which might take a fault), copy the data
>     via the kernel address space.

argh.  We just can't go adding all this gunk into the write() path. 

mmap_sem, a full pte-walk, taking of pte-page locks, etc.  For every page. 
Even single-process write() will suffer, let along multithreaded stuff,
where mmap_sem contention may be the bigger problem.

I was going to do some quick measurements of this, but the code oopses
on power4 (http://userweb.kernel.org/~akpm/s5000402.jpg)

There's a build error in filemap_xip.c btw.



We need to think different.

What happened to the idea of doing an atomic copy into the non-uptodate
page and handling it somehow?



Another option might be to effectively pin the whole mm during the copy:

	down_read(&current->mm->unpaging_lock);
	get_user(addr);		/* Fault the page in */
	...
	copy_from_user()
	up_read(&current->mm->unpaging_lock);

then, anyone who wants to unmap pages from this mm requires
write_lock(unpaging_lock).  So we know the results of that get_user()
cannot be undone.

Or perhaps something like this can be done on a per-vma basis.  Just
something to tell the VM "hey, you're not allowed to unmap this page right
now"?

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-04  9:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-04  8:49 [patch 0/9] buffered write deadlock fix Nick Piggin
2007-02-04  8:49 ` [patch 1/9] fs: libfs buffered write leak fix Nick Piggin
2007-02-04  8:50 ` [patch 2/9] mm: revert "generic_file_buffered_write(): handle zero length iovec segments" Nick Piggin
2007-02-04  8:50 ` [patch 3/9] mm: revert "generic_file_buffered_write(): deadlock on vectored write" Nick Piggin
2007-02-04  8:50 ` [patch 4/9] mm: generic_file_buffered_write cleanup Nick Piggin
2007-02-04  8:50 ` [patch 5/9] mm: debug write deadlocks Nick Piggin
2007-02-04  8:50 ` [patch 6/9] mm: be sure to trim blocks Nick Piggin
2007-02-04  8:50 ` [patch 7/9] mm: cleanup pagecache insertion operations Nick Piggin
2007-02-04  8:50 ` [patch 8/9] mm: generic_file_buffered_write iovec cleanup Nick Piggin
2007-02-04  8:51 ` [patch 9/9] mm: fix pagecache write deadlocks Nick Piggin
2007-02-04  9:44   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2007-02-04 10:15     ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-04 10:26       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-02-04 10:30       ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-04 10:46         ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-04 10:50           ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-04 10:56           ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-04 11:03             ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-04 11:15               ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-04 15:10                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-04 18:36                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-06  2:25                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-06  4:41                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-06  5:30                         ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-06  5:49                           ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-06  5:53                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-04 10:59     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-02-04 11:10       ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-04 11:22         ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-04 17:40         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-02-06  2:09           ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-06 13:13             ` Anton Altaparmakov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-01-29 10:31 [patch 0/9] buffered write deadlock fix Nick Piggin
2007-01-29 10:33 ` [patch 9/9] mm: fix pagecache write deadlocks Nick Piggin
2007-01-29 11:11   ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-02 23:53   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-03  1:38     ` Nick Piggin

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