From: Andreas Dilger <adilger@clusterfs.com>
To: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>
Cc: Amit Gud <gud@ksu.edu>, Nikita Danilov <nikita@clusterfs.com>,
David Lang <david.lang@digitalinsight.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
val_henson@linux.intel.com, riel@surriel.com, zab@zabbo.net,
arjan@infradead.org, suparna@in.ibm.com, brandon@ifup.org,
karunasagark@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] ChunkFS: fs fission for faster fsck
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 05:38:34 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070425113834.GT5967@schatzie.adilger.int> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070425105434.GX32602149@melbourne.sgi.com>
On Apr 25, 2007 20:54 +1000, David Chinner wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 04:53:11PM -0500, Amit Gud wrote:
> > Right now, there is no distinction between an inode and continuation
> > inode (also referred to as 'cnode' below), except for the
> > EXT2_IS_CONT_FL flag. Every inode holds a list of static number of
> > inodes, currently limited to 4.
> >
> > The structure looks like this:
> >
> > ---------- ----------
> > | cnode 0 |---------->| cnode 0 |----------> to another cnode or NULL
> > ---------- ----------
> > | cnode 1 |----- | cnode 1 |-----
> > ---------- | ---------- |
> > | cnode 2 |-- | | cnode 2 |-- |
> > ---------- | | ---------- | |
> > | cnode 3 | | | | cnode 3 | | |
> > ---------- | | ---------- | |
> > | | | | | |
> >
> > inodes inodes or NULL
>
> How do you recover if fsfuzzer takes out a cnode in the chain? The
> chunk is marked clean, but clearly corrupted and needs fixing and
> you don't know what it was pointing at. Hence you have a pointer to
> a trashed cnode *somewhere* that you need to find and fix, and a
> bunch of orphaned cnodes that nobody points to *somewhere else* in
> the filesystem that you have to find. That's a full scan fsck case,
> isn't?
Presumably, the cnodes in the other chunks contain forward and back
references. Those need to contain at minimum inode + generation + chunk
to avoid problem of pointing to a _different_ inode after such corruption
caused the old inode to be deleted and a new one allocated in its place.
If the cnode in each chunk is more than just a singly-linked list, the
file as a whole could survive multiple chunk corruptions, though there
would now be holes in the file.
> It seems that any sort of damage to the underlying storage (e.g.
> media error, I/O error or user brain explosion) results in the need
> to do a full fsck and hence chunkfs gives you no benefit in this
> case.
There are several cases where such corruption could be found:
- file access from the "parent" cnode will be missing corrupted cnode,
probably causing a fsck of both the source and target chunks
- a fsck of the source chunk would find the dangling cnode reference
and cause a fsck of the corrupt chunk
- a fsck of the later cnode chunks would find the dangling cnode reference
and cause a fsck of the corrupt chunk
- a fsck of the corrupt chunk would find the original corruption
The case where only a fsck of the corrupt chunk is done would not find the
cnode references. Maybe there needs to be per-chunk info which contains
a list/bitmap of other chunks that have cnodes shared with each chunk?
Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger
Principal Software Engineer
Cluster File Systems, Inc.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-25 11:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-23 11:21 [RFC][PATCH] ChunkFS: fs fission for faster fsck Amit Gud
[not found] ` <17965.6084 1.900376.524639@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
2007-04-23 16:28 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2007-04-23 15:25 ` Amit Gud
2007-04-23 16:32 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2007-04-24 11:44 ` Nikita Danilov
2007-04-24 18:27 ` David Lang
2007-04-24 19:34 ` Nikita Danilov
2007-04-24 19:26 ` David Lang
2007-04-25 11:34 ` Nikita Danilov
2007-04-25 16:39 ` David Lang
2007-04-25 22:47 ` Valerie Henson
2007-04-26 14:14 ` Jeff Dike
2007-04-26 15:53 ` Amit Gud
2007-04-26 16:05 ` Jeff Dike
2007-04-26 16:56 ` Amit Gud
2007-04-27 4:58 ` Valerie Henson
2007-04-27 15:06 ` Jeff Dike
2007-05-01 17:26 ` Valerie Henson
2007-04-26 16:11 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-26 16:44 ` Amit Gud
2007-04-24 21:53 ` Amit Gud
2007-04-25 10:54 ` David Chinner
2007-04-25 11:38 ` Andreas Dilger [this message]
2007-04-25 17:52 ` Amit Gud
2007-04-25 23:06 ` Valerie Henson
2007-04-25 23:03 ` Valerie Henson
2007-04-26 0:47 ` David Chinner
2007-04-26 22:21 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-26 8:47 ` Jan Kara
2007-04-27 5:07 ` Valerie Henson
2007-04-27 10:53 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-28 6:50 ` Valerie Henson
2007-04-28 10:03 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-25 22:43 ` Valerie Henson
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