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From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: Valerie Henson <val_henson@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] TileFS - a proposal for scalable integrity checking
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 12:06:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070509170652.GF11115@waste.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070509075638.GJ12859@nifty>

On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:56:39AM -0700, Valerie Henson wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 08:40:42PM -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> > 
> > This does mean that our time to make progress on a check is bounded at
> > the top by the size of our largest file. If we have a degenerate
> > filesystem filled with a single file, this will in fact take as long
> > as a conventional fsck. If your filesystem has, say, 100 roughly
> > equally-sized files, you're back in Chunkfs territory.
> 
> Hm, I'm not sure that everyone understands, a particular subtlety of
> how the fsck algorithm works in chunkfs.  A lot of people seem to
> think that you need to check *all* cross-chunk links, every time an
> individual chunk is checked.  That's not the case; you only need to
> check the links that go into and out of the dirty chunk.  You also
> don't need to check the other parts of the file outside the chunk,
> except for perhaps reading the byte range info for each continuation
> node and making sure no two continuation inodes think they both have
> the same range, but you don't check the indirect blocks, block
> bitmaps, etc.

My reference to chunkfs here is simply that the worst-case is checking ~1
chunk, which is about 1/100th of a volume.

> > So we should have no trouble checking an exabyte-sized filesystem on a
> > 4MB box. Even if it has one exabyte-sized file! We check the first
> > tile, see that it points to our file, then iterate through that file,
> > checking that the forward and reverse pointers for each block match
> > and all CRCs match, etc. We cache the file's inode as clean, finish
> > checking anything else in the first tile, then mark it clean. When we get
> > to the next tile (and the next billion after that!), we notice that
> > each block points back to our cached inode and skip rechecking it.
> 
> If I understand correctly then, if you do have a one exabyte sized
> file, and any part of it is in a dirty tile, you will need to check
> the whole file?  Or will Joern's fpos proposal fix this?

Yes, the original idea is you have to check every file that "covers" a
tile in its entirety. With Joern's fpos piece, I think we can restrict
our checks to just the section of the file that covers the tile.

-- 
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-09 17:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-28 22:05 [RFC] TileFS - a proposal for scalable integrity checking Matt Mackall
2007-04-29 12:21 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-29 12:57   ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-29 15:47     ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-09  5:56   ` Valerie Henson
2007-05-09 10:12     ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-29 15:58 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-29 16:24   ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-29 16:34 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-29 16:05   ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-29 16:09   ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-29 23:23 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-30  1:40   ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-30 17:26     ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-30 17:59       ` Matt Mackall
2007-05-02 13:18         ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-02 13:32     ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-02 15:37       ` Matt Mackall
2007-05-02 16:35         ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-09  7:56     ` Valerie Henson
2007-05-09 11:16       ` Nikita Danilov
2007-05-09 18:56         ` Valerie Henson
2007-05-09 19:19           ` Nikita Danilov
2007-05-09 17:06       ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2007-05-09 18:59         ` Valerie Henson
2007-05-09 19:51           ` Matt Mackall
2007-05-10  0:03             ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-11  9:46             ` Valerie Henson
2007-05-11 15:55               ` Matt Mackall
2007-05-09 19:01     ` Valerie Henson
2007-05-09 20:05       ` Matt Mackall

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