From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@lazybastard.org>
To: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
Albert Cahalan <acahalan@gmail.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
Ingo Oeser <ioe-lkml@rameria.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] LogFS take three
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 13:23:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070516112317.GB5472@lazybastard.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070516052253.GI943@1wt.eu>
On Wed, 16 May 2007 07:22:54 +0200, Willy Tarreau wrote:
>
> On hard disks, yes, but as you suggested, there are lots of other flash
> devices interfaced as block devices. CompactFlash comes to mind, USB
> keys too. And on these ones, the most important is to reduce the number
> of writes and to support large sizes. I already see LogFS as an interesting
> alternative to JFFS2 on such devices, eventhough it does not (yet?) support
> compression.
It does support compression now. That part was finished, erm, about two
weeks ago.
Logfs on Smartmedia format (I assume most CompactFlash, USB, SD and MMC
media use that) will currently cause a nasty interaction. Unlike JFFS2,
logfs will alternately write to several eraseblocks. On real flash,
alternating between half-finished blocks is free.
Smartmedia standard requires to finish the last block before moving to
the next. So the logfs write pattern will cause it to add an
erase/write overhead of - depending on erase size and compression - 4x
to 512x. Pretty bad.
If Smartmedia was really stupid, there would be no overhead at all. Any
manucaturers listening should seriously think about allowing raw flash
access to their devices. ;)
Jörn
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-16 11:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-15 15:19 [PATCH] LogFS take three Jörn Engel
2007-05-15 15:21 ` Review status (Re: [PATCH] LogFS take three) Jörn Engel
2007-05-17 16:03 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-17 17:10 ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-20 17:30 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-23 12:58 ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-23 15:07 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-23 15:14 ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-23 15:53 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-15 18:37 ` [PATCH] LogFS take three Sam Ravnborg
2007-05-15 19:10 ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-15 19:07 ` John Stoffel
2007-05-15 19:19 ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-16 4:54 ` David Woodhouse
2007-05-16 11:09 ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-16 11:34 ` Jamie Lokier
2007-05-16 11:38 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2007-05-16 12:25 ` Jamie Lokier
2007-05-16 12:49 ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-16 11:50 ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-16 12:06 ` CaT
2007-05-17 17:07 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-16 12:29 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-16 12:55 ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-17 17:08 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-16 13:41 ` John Stoffel
2007-05-16 13:53 ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-16 14:04 ` David Woodhouse
2007-05-16 14:13 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2007-05-16 14:17 ` Kevin Bowling
2007-05-17 9:12 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-17 9:52 ` David Woodhouse
2007-05-19 15:00 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-05-16 14:29 ` CaT
2007-05-17 17:14 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-19 14:45 ` David Weinehall
2007-05-19 16:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2007-05-19 16:27 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-17 16:59 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-17 11:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-05-15 20:37 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-16 0:06 ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-16 2:11 ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-16 5:22 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-16 11:23 ` Jörn Engel [this message]
2007-05-17 17:26 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-17 17:45 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-18 1:00 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-05-18 6:16 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-16 12:07 ` David Woodhouse
2007-05-16 15:34 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-16 15:49 ` David Woodhouse
2007-05-16 16:41 ` Jörn Engel
[not found] ` <7fe698080705162312t4e7ed90byd10ef8e664027b17@mail.gmail.com>
2007-05-17 6:25 ` David Woodhouse
2007-05-17 8:20 ` Dongjun Shin
2007-05-17 8:43 ` David Woodhouse
2007-05-17 12:05 ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-17 20:18 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-18 0:01 ` Dongjun Shin
2007-05-18 6:17 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-18 6:47 ` David Woodhouse
2007-05-19 15:18 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-05-19 6:15 ` Rob Landley
2007-05-19 9:24 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-19 17:26 ` Rob Landley
2007-05-15 23:26 ` Albert Cahalan
2007-05-16 0:09 ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-16 11:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2007-05-16 12:08 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-05-16 12:58 ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-16 2:37 ` Roland Dreier
2007-05-16 11:35 ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-16 10:21 ` Pekka J Enberg
2007-05-16 12:26 ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-16 12:36 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-05-16 12:38 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-05-16 13:20 ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-17 20:58 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-05-17 21:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-05-17 21:50 ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-16 19:17 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-16 19:23 ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-17 15:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-05-17 20:21 ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-17 21:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-05-17 21:30 ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-17 22:01 ` Jamie Lokier
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