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From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@lazybastard.org>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind@infradead.org>,
	akpm@osdl.org, Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>,
	Albert Cahalan <acahalan@gmail.com>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	John Stoffel <john@stoffel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Oeser <ioe-lkml@rameria.de>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] LogFS take three
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 14:49:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070516124933.GF5472@lazybastard.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070516122548.GA25239@mail.shareable.org>

On Wed, 16 May 2007 13:25:48 +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> 
> Is LogFS really slower than JFFS2 in practice?

Not sure.  I ran a benchmark before adding compression support in QEMU
with a lightning-fast device.  So the results should differ quite a bit
from practice.

http://logfs.org/~joern/logfs/benchmark/benchmark_overview

LogFS was actually faster than JFFS2.  So for that particular
unrealistic benchmark, updating the LogFS tree was less expensive than
trying (and failing) to compress and calculating the CRC was for JFFS2.

With compression finished, I would expect LogFS numbers to degrade.  If
file data had checksums (not done yet, should be optional for users to
decide) even more so.

> I would have guessed reads to be a similar speed, tree updates to be a
> similar speed  to journal  updates for sustained  non-fsyncing writes,
> and the difference unimportant for tiny individual commits whose index
> updates are not merged with any other.  I've not thought about it much
> though.

LogFS isn't that good yet.  Right now, writing 10 adjacent blocks to a
file requires 10 tree updates instead of 1.  Not full updates though,
just up to the inode.

Quite surprisingly, read speed in the benchmark was significantly better
for LogFS, even after substracting mount time.  I don't know if all of
that can be explained with CRC checks or there is more to it.

Jörn

-- 
I can say that I spend most of my time fixing bugs even if I have lots
of new features to implement in mind, but I give bugs more priority.
-- Andrea Arcangeli, 2000
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-16 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-15 15:19 [PATCH] LogFS take three Jörn Engel
2007-05-15 15:21 ` Review status (Re: [PATCH] LogFS take three) Jörn Engel
2007-05-17 16:03   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-17 17:10     ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-20 17:30       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-23 12:58         ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-23 15:07           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-23 15:14             ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-23 15:53               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-15 18:37 ` [PATCH] LogFS take three Sam Ravnborg
2007-05-15 19:10   ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-15 19:07 ` John Stoffel
2007-05-15 19:19   ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-16  4:54     ` David Woodhouse
2007-05-16 11:09       ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-16 11:34         ` Jamie Lokier
2007-05-16 11:38           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2007-05-16 12:25             ` Jamie Lokier
2007-05-16 12:49               ` Jörn Engel [this message]
2007-05-16 11:50           ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-16 12:06             ` CaT
2007-05-17 17:07               ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-16 12:29             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-16 12:55               ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-17 17:08                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-16 13:41             ` John Stoffel
2007-05-16 13:53               ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-16 14:04                 ` David Woodhouse
2007-05-16 14:13                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2007-05-16 14:17                   ` Kevin Bowling
2007-05-17  9:12                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-17  9:52                       ` David Woodhouse
2007-05-19 15:00                     ` Bill Davidsen
2007-05-16 14:29                 ` CaT
2007-05-17 17:14                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-19 14:45                 ` David Weinehall
2007-05-19 16:17                   ` Jamie Lokier
2007-05-19 16:27                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-17 16:59         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-17 11:39     ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-05-15 20:37 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-16  0:06   ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-16  2:11     ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-16  5:22     ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-16 11:23       ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-17 17:26     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-17 17:45       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-18  1:00         ` Kyle Moffett
2007-05-18  6:16           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-16 12:07   ` David Woodhouse
2007-05-16 15:34     ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-16 15:49       ` David Woodhouse
2007-05-16 16:41         ` Jörn Engel
     [not found]           ` <7fe698080705162312t4e7ed90byd10ef8e664027b17@mail.gmail.com>
2007-05-17  6:25             ` David Woodhouse
2007-05-17  8:20               ` Dongjun Shin
2007-05-17  8:43                 ` David Woodhouse
2007-05-17 12:05                   ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-17 20:18                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-18  0:01                   ` Dongjun Shin
2007-05-18  6:17                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-18  6:47                       ` David Woodhouse
2007-05-19 15:18                 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-05-19  6:15   ` Rob Landley
2007-05-19  9:24     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-19 17:26       ` Rob Landley
2007-05-15 23:26 ` Albert Cahalan
2007-05-16  0:09   ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-16 11:18   ` Jamie Lokier
2007-05-16 12:08     ` Pekka Enberg
2007-05-16 12:58       ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-16  2:37 ` Roland Dreier
2007-05-16 11:35   ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-16 10:21 ` Pekka J Enberg
2007-05-16 12:26   ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-16 12:36     ` Pekka Enberg
2007-05-16 12:38       ` Pekka Enberg
2007-05-16 13:20       ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-17 20:58         ` Pekka Enberg
2007-05-17 21:36           ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-05-17 21:50             ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-16 19:17 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-16 19:23   ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-17 15:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-05-17 20:21   ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-17 21:00     ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-05-17 21:30       ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-17 22:01     ` Jamie Lokier

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