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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Jörn Engel" <joern@lazybastard.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, akpm@osdl.org,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>, John Stoffel <john@stoffel.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind@infradead.org>, CaT <cat@zip.com.au>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
	Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>,
	David Weinehall <tao@acc.umu.se>, Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>,
	Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
	Dongjun Shin <djshin90@gmail.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Albert Cahalan <acahalan@gmail.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>,
	Ondrej Zajicek <santiago@crfreenet.org>,
	Ulisses Furquim <ulissesf@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Patch 15/18] fs/logfs/super.c
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:33:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200706102033.11211.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070610173828.GA32619@lazybastard.org>

On Sunday 10 June 2007, Jörn Engel wrote:
> On Sun, 10 June 2007 18:27:49 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Sunday 03 June 2007, Jörn Engel wrote:

> > How about using submit_bio here instead of going to the page cache?
> > That would avoid doubling all the memory consumption here.
> 
> That may make sense, yes.  "May", because there is no simple mapping
> between physical data and logical data.  In ext3, everything is
> block-aligned, usually to 4KiB == PAGE_SIZE.  So the exact same content
> would exists in two pages.  In LogFS, data is compressed and
> byte-aligned.  A bdev page can contain several full objects that after
> uncompression get stored in one page each.

Then maybe the submit_bio logic should only be done for the ->write
path, not for ->read. The data that gets written out should already
be present in the page cache for the files, so there is not much point
having again, while you can see the read path as blockdev readahead:
When you read a physical block that contains a logical block, it's
likely to also contain part of another logical block that is going
to be read in the near future.

This way, you would also get exclusively clean pages in the block
device address_space, which can be easily discarded.

Also, maintaining correct ordering between write requests can be
done easier if you insert the bios directly, instead of waiting
for the lru writeback.

	Arnd <><
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-10 18:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-03 18:38 LogFS take four Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:40 ` [Patch 01/18] fs/Kconfig Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:40 ` [Patch 02/18] fs/Makefile Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:41 ` [Patch 03/18] fs/logfs/Makefile Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:42 ` [Patch 04/18] include/linux/logfs.h Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 21:42   ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-04  9:12     ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-04 13:38       ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-04 14:02         ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-05 15:49         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-05 15:53           ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-05 18:49             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-06  8:50               ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-06  8:59                 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-06-06 12:42                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-05 20:39           ` Bill Davidsen
2007-06-03 18:43 ` [Patch 05/18] fs/logfs/logfs.h Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 21:50   ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-04  8:17     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-04  9:11     ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-06 11:29   ` Paulo Marques
2007-06-06 11:29     ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:43 ` [Patch 06/18] fs/logfs/compr.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 21:58   ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-04  8:54     ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-04 13:53       ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-03 18:44 ` [Patch 07/18] fs/logfs/dir.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-15  8:59   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-15 11:57     ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:45 ` [Patch 08/18] fs/logfs/file.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:46 ` [Patch 09/18] fs/logfs/gc.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 22:07   ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-04  9:01     ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-15  9:03   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-15 11:14     ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-15 13:03       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-03 18:46 ` [Patch 10/18] fs/logfs/inode.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-10 17:24   ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-10 17:40     ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-11 23:28     ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-11 23:51       ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-11 23:57         ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:47 ` [Patch 11/18] fs/logfs/journal.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:47 ` [Patch 12/18] fs/logfs/memtree.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:48 ` [Patch 13/18] fs/logfs/readwrite.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:48 ` [Patch 14/18] fs/logfs/segment.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 22:21   ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-04  9:07     ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:49 ` [Patch 15/18] fs/logfs/super.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-10 16:27   ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-10 17:38     ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-10 18:33       ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2007-06-10 19:10         ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-10 19:20           ` Willy Tarreau
2007-06-03 18:50 ` [Patch 16/18] fs/logfs/progs/fsck.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:50 ` [Patch 17/18] fs/logfs/progs/mkfs.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:51 ` [Patch 18/18] fs/logfs/Locking Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 19:17 ` LogFS take four Jan-Benedict Glaw
2007-06-03 19:19   ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 22:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-04  9:05   ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-15  8:37 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-15 11:10   ` Jörn Engel

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