From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Mike Frysinger Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng 2.13-rc1 Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 03:17:33 -0400 Message-ID: <200707060317.35177.vapier@gentoo.org> References: <8CYT9-4Ou-23@gated-at.bofh.it> <87vecyeg5y.fsf@hades.wkstn.nix> <20070706064153.GA25161@DervishD> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1909414.D37Cfd0V8l"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Nix , Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>, Karel Zak , List util-linux-ng , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org To: DervishD Return-path: Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([140.211.166.183]:35730 "EHLO smtp.gentoo.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1760210AbXGFHPd (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Jul 2007 03:15:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20070706064153.GA25161@DervishD> Sender: linux-fsdevel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-fsdevel.vger.kernel.org --nextPart1909414.D37Cfd0V8l Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 06 July 2007, DervishD wrote: > I really like the spirit of CMake. Of course, it adds a dependency, > but IMHO is much safer to depend on CMake being installed (or Perl, for > that matter) than to depend on a shell. Every shell out there seems to > do things on its own, and apart from dash, which is more or less > standard, the rest of shells do actually violate the standard one way or > another (in fact, configure script include workarounds for at least Bash > and Zsh). careful, you tread into dangerous territory making silly statements like th= at. =20 by "standard" you probably mean "POSIX standard" which dash too has had=20 plenty of bugs in terms of implementing it properly (and still does). as f= or=20 the workarounds you allude to, autotools is designed to be portable=20 everywhere which means including workarounds for random bugs in major=20 releases of operating systems. just because autotools lacks workarounds fo= r=20 bugs found in random versions of dash does not make dash magical. there is= =20 also the fact that autotools works on systems that predate POSIX or lack=20 shells which support POSIX. and claiming that it's safer to depend on CMak= e=20 than bash in this Linux world is just plain bogus. =2Dmike --nextPart1909414.D37Cfd0V8l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUARo3sj0FjO5/oN/WBAQKf6A//eETco2XU+hjk/C4AQZaG4y2CD3D64vGO AzYoK0H1bVg0x1+q1FZsTlJF/fpz4FXcD6BrFN7hYI95ltEOIJ24aVHKS3GyaNqY /LqOezOq40r/napQ/e9qZ2ojfOsvd4M1JVAaS5SUe64Q5Idhk7piX1aCLfJw5JTS Zhx9hhMByKU4eAhJiiDf0wq4PIFmI8EXWMxsKpsQHm6EdWwzj03ofmu7/1HiisNm 2MiyaddlfqDNgSjQFWuWXvsLEYtNZIcGpnWl5Kh+u2fNP0qZuDlwXGZ9Zq7jWZcK q4iiqUQxg7dssYNXgQb0XqJZvcFe2emAXv6LgvyhRl4TYLjB3dXj/AnLckdag7VH eCGPFqECZcKBdvBo2Ik6Nh68dgtwwyjJ/VbdIVhyqeO3wCFYarYaRuDoZoGnpcq6 ArCGUI25+7nN+OhjlO1WWzBazfK1crLGstF8f6oCxoITYklgO8GWnH/LF85ZoKmG TI+8Cd7fzJe/ITQBbGNbAX9rX28T35LMoGPjhnhlL6jkDc+t9Bz7Xi9nvmDnPwa6 SpBLlJxXwuI/HuS7CAYvqUxXPWoGHSgiVYEL1+5xjZblcRmTQCdOwWvu1h5kllHu +Dqr+RQvBTJ1jdKNJ9rUOWW2QDwz3JsO+u2qS7ce7Y15k/Kl6F+FvjD/kx1fW5td +F8+0a3PFuk= =EC+6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1909414.D37Cfd0V8l--