From: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Jan Blunck <jblunck@suse.de>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Bharata B Rao <bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 12/26] ext2 white-out support
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 06:53:09 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070731105309.GA6980@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070731074436.GE5101@hasse.suse.de>
On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 09:44:36AM +0200, Jan Blunck wrote:
> Ok, this is pretty similar to the way I implemented this for tmpfs. The
> problem is that the union mount code is explicitly checking if the filesystem
> is supporting whiteout. I used to use a new filesystem flag (FS_WHITEOUT) for
> this but thought that disk filesystem like ext2/3/4 will have problem with
> that if you mount an old image. So I guess I still need a feature flag.
Without the method I described to you, *any* ext2/3/4 filesystem will
support whiteouts (as long as you have the support code compiled into
the kernel :-), so there's no need for a feature flag.
> > I wouldn't bother with setting the directory type field to be DT_WHT,
> > given that they will never be returned to userspace anyway.
>
> At the moment I still rely on this for the current readdir implementation.
> Viro already said that he doesn't want to see this (the readdir changes) in
> the kernel but in userspace.
Life gets very messy if you have to do this in userspace. Example:
statically linked programs that were compiled with a version of glibc
that didn't know about whiteout records. Unfortunately, the memory
needed to to collate directories entries so that whiteout records can
be dropped is painful enough that completely understand why Al doesn't
want to see this in userspace. Unfortunately this is going to be one
of those things that will make union mounts problematic, compared to
something like unionfs.
- Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-31 10:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-30 16:13 [RFC 00/26] VFS based Union Mount (V2) Jan Blunck
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 01/26] [PATCH 14/18] shmem: convert to using splice instead of sendfile() Jan Blunck
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 02/26] VFS: Export dput_path() and path_to_nameidata() Jan Blunck
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 03/26] VFS: Make lookup_hash() return a struct path Jan Blunck
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 04/26] VFS: Make lookup_create() " Jan Blunck
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 05/26] VFS: cache_lookup() cleanup Jan Blunck
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 06/26] VFS: Make real_lookup() return a struct path Jan Blunck
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 07/26] VFS: Introduce dput() variante that maintains a kill-list Jan Blunck
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 08/26] VFS: Export lives_below_in_same_fs() Jan Blunck
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 09/26] linux/stat.h: Add the filetype white-out Jan Blunck
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 10/26] VFS white-out handling Jan Blunck
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 11/26] tmpfs white-out support Jan Blunck
2007-08-01 15:13 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-08-02 2:48 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 12/26] ext2 " Jan Blunck
2007-07-31 3:45 ` Theodore Tso
2007-07-31 7:44 ` Jan Blunck
2007-07-31 8:32 ` Andreas Dilger
2007-07-31 9:08 ` Jan Blunck
2007-07-31 10:53 ` Theodore Tso [this message]
2007-08-02 19:31 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-31 16:36 ` Josef Sipek
2007-07-31 17:00 ` Jan Blunck
2007-07-31 17:11 ` Josef Sipek
2007-08-01 15:23 ` Dave Kleikamp
2007-08-01 18:44 ` Josef Sipek
2007-08-01 19:10 ` Dave Kleikamp
2007-08-01 19:33 ` Josef Sipek
2007-08-01 19:52 ` Dave Kleikamp
2007-08-01 22:06 ` Erez Zadok
2007-08-02 12:05 ` Jan Blunck
2007-08-02 11:55 ` Jan Blunck
2007-08-02 17:50 ` Jörn Engel
2007-08-02 5:24 ` Ph. Marek
2007-08-02 12:12 ` Jan Blunck
2007-08-02 10:26 ` Jan Blunck
2007-08-01 10:00 ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2007-08-01 11:43 ` Josef Sipek
2007-08-01 18:01 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-31 17:03 ` Mark Williamson
2007-07-31 17:16 ` Josef Sipek
2007-08-01 17:58 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-01 18:03 ` Josef Sipek
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 13/26] ext3 whiteout support Jan Blunck
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 14/26] union-mount: Documentation Jan Blunck
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 15/26] union-mount: Add union-mount mount flag Jan Blunck
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 16/26] union-mount: Introduce union_mount structure Jan Blunck
2007-08-06 5:57 ` Bharata B Rao
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 17/26] union-mount: Drive the union cache via dcache Jan Blunck
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 18/26] union-mount: Changes to the namespace handling Jan Blunck
2007-08-08 10:10 ` Bharata B Rao
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 19/26] union-mount: Make lookup work for union-mounted file systems Jan Blunck
2007-08-09 5:42 ` Bharata B Rao
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 20/26] union-mount: Simple union-mount readdir implementation Jan Blunck
2007-08-06 11:08 ` Bharata B Rao
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 21/26] union-mount: in-kernel file copy between union mounted filesystems Jan Blunck
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 22/26] union-mount: white-out changes for copy-on-open Jan Blunck
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 23/26] union-mount: copyup on rename Jan Blunck
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 24/26] union-mount: dont report EROFS for union mounts Jan Blunck
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 25/26] union-mount: Debug Infrastructure Jan Blunck
2007-07-30 16:13 ` [RFC 26/26] union-mount: Debug code Jan Blunck
2007-07-30 18:23 ` [RFC 00/26] VFS based Union Mount (V2) Al Boldi
2007-08-02 6:49 ` Bharata B Rao
2007-08-02 10:17 ` Jan Blunck
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