From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
cebbert@redhat.com, willy@linux.intel.com, clameter@sgi.com,
nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, hch@lst.de, mel@skynet.ie,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
suresh.b.siddha@intel.com
Subject: Re: SLUB performance regression vs SLAB
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:48:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071005064853.GI5711@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071004222356.GH23367404@sgi.com>
On Fri, Oct 05 2007, David Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 03:07:18PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> > From: Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:47:48
> > -0400
> >
> > > On 10/04/2007 05:11 PM, David Miller wrote:
> > > > From: Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:02:17
> > > > -0400
> > > >
> > > >> How do you simulate reading 100TB of data spread across 3000 disks,
> > > >> selecting 10% of it using some criterion, then sorting and summarizing
> > > >> the result?
> > > >
> > > > You repeatedly read zeros from a smaller disk into the same amount of
> > > > memory, and sort that as if it were real data instead.
> > >
> > > You've just replaced 3000 concurrent streams of data with a single stream.
> > > That won't test the memory allocator's ability to allocate memory to many
> > > concurrent users very well.
> >
> > You've kindly removed my "thinking outside of the box" comment.
> >
> > The point is was not that my specific suggestion would be perfect, but that
> > if you used your creativity and thought in similar directions you might find
> > a way to do it.
> >
> > People are too narrow minded when it comes to these things, and that's the
> > problem I want to address.
>
> And it's a good point, too, because often problems to one person are a
> no-brainer to someone else.
>
> Creating lots of "fake" disks is trivial to do, IMO. Use loopback on
> sparse files containing sparse filesxi, use ramdisks containing sparse
> files or write a sparse dm target for sparse block device mapping,
> etc. I'm sure there's more than the few I just threw out...
Or use scsi_debug to fake drives/controllers, works wonderful as well
for some things and involve the full IO stack.
I'd like to second Davids emails here, this is a serious problem. Having
a reproducible test case lowers the barrier for getting the problem
fixed by orders of magnitude. It's the difference between the problem
getting fixed in a day or two and it potentially lingering for months,
because email ping-pong takes forever and "the test team has moved on to
other tests, we'll let you know the results of test foo in 3 weeks time
when we have a new slot on the box" just removing any developer
motivation to work on the issue.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-05 6:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-19 3:36 [00/17] [RFC] Virtual Compound Page Support Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [01/17] Vmalloc: Move vmalloc_to_page to mm/vmalloc Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [02/17] Vmalloc: add const Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [03/17] is_vmalloc_addr(): Check if an address is within the vmalloc boundaries Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 6:32 ` David Rientjes
2007-09-19 7:24 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19 8:09 ` David Rientjes
2007-09-19 8:44 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19 9:19 ` David Rientjes
2007-09-19 13:23 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19 17:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 17:52 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19 17:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 17:52 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [04/17] vmalloc: clean up page array indexing Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [05/17] vunmap: return page array Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 8:05 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-19 22:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-20 0:47 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [06/17] vmalloc_address(): Determine vmalloc address from page struct Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [07/17] GFP_VFALLBACK: Allow fallback of compound pages to virtual mappings Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [08/17] Pass vmalloc address in page->private Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [09/17] VFALLBACK: Debugging aid Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [10/17] Use GFP_VFALLBACK for sparsemem Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [11/17] GFP_VFALLBACK for zone wait table Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [12/17] Virtual Compound page allocation from interrupt context Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [13/17] Virtual compound page freeing in " Christoph Lameter
2007-09-18 20:36 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-20 17:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [14/17] Allow bit_waitqueue to wait on a bit in a vmalloc area Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 4:12 ` Gabriel C
2007-09-19 17:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [15/17] SLUB: Support virtual fallback via SLAB_VFALLBACK Christoph Lameter
2007-09-27 21:42 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-28 17:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-28 5:14 ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-01 20:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-02 8:43 ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-04 16:16 ` SLUB performance regression vs SLAB Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-04 17:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-04 17:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-04 17:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-04 18:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-04 20:48 ` David Miller
2007-10-04 20:58 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-04 21:05 ` David Miller
2007-10-04 21:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-04 18:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-04 17:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-04 19:28 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-04 19:05 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-04 19:46 ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-10-04 20:55 ` David Miller
2007-10-04 21:02 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-10-04 21:11 ` David Miller
2007-10-04 21:47 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-10-04 22:07 ` David Miller
2007-10-04 22:23 ` David Chinner
2007-10-05 6:48 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2007-10-05 9:19 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-10-05 9:28 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-05 11:12 ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-05 12:39 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-05 19:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-05 19:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-05 11:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-05 12:37 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-05 19:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-05 20:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-05 21:31 ` David Miller
2007-10-04 21:05 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-05 2:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-05 2:53 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-09-28 17:55 ` [15/17] SLUB: Support virtual fallback via SLAB_VFALLBACK Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28 18:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-28 18:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28 18:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-28 20:22 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-28 21:14 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-28 20:59 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-29 8:13 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-29 8:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-29 8:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-29 9:01 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-29 9:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-29 9:27 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28 20:19 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-29 19:20 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-29 19:09 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-30 20:12 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-30 4:16 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-29 9:00 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-01 20:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-01 21:30 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-01 21:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-01 21:45 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-01 21:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-02 9:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-29 8:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-01 21:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-02 8:37 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-28 21:05 ` Mel Gorman
2007-10-01 21:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [16/17] Allow virtual fallback for buffer_heads Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [17/17] Allow virtual fallback for dentries Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 7:34 ` [00/17] [RFC] Virtual Compound Page Support Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19 8:34 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-09-19 17:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 8:24 ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-19 17:36 ` Christoph Lameter
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