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From: Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
To: David Newall <david@davidnewall.com>
Cc: jaroslav.sykora@gmail.com,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@computergmbh.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] Shadow directories
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:47:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071018204703.GQ8181@ftp.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4717C419.8060602@davidnewall.com>

On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 06:07:45AM +0930, David Newall wrote:
> >considerations of this whole scheme. Linux, like most Unix systems, 
> >has never allowed hard links to directories for a number of reasons;
> 
> The claim is wrong.  UNIX systems have traditionally allowed the 
> superuser to create hard links to directories.  See link(2) for 2.10BSD 
> <http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=link&sektion=2&manpath=2.10+BSD>. 
> Having got that wrong throws doubt on the argument; perhaps a path can 
> simultaneously be a file and a directory.

Learn to read.  Linux has never allowed that.  Most of the Unix systems
do not allow that.  Original _did_ allow that, but at the cost of very
easily triggered fs corruption (and it didn't have things like rename(2) -
it _did_ have userland implementation, of course, in suid-root mv(1),
but that sucker had been extremely racy and could be easily used to
screw filesystem to hell and back; adding rename(2) to the set of primitives
combined with multiple links to directories leads to very nasty issues on
_any_ system).

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-18 20:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-18 15:21 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Shadow directories Jaroslav Sykora
2007-10-18 15:22 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] Shadow directories: headers Jaroslav Sykora
2007-10-18 15:23 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] Shadow directories: core Jaroslav Sykora
2007-10-18 15:25 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] Shadow directories: chdir, fchdir Jaroslav Sykora
2007-10-18 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] Shadow directories: procfs Jaroslav Sykora
2007-10-18 15:28 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] Shadow directories: documentation Jaroslav Sykora
2007-10-18 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] Shadow directories Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-18 17:07   ` Jaroslav Sykora
2007-10-18 17:10     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-18 20:10       ` Jaroslav Sykora
2007-10-18 20:12         ` Jan Engelhardt
     [not found]     ` <4717BBBB.6040205@davidnewall.com>
2007-10-18 20:09       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-18 20:37       ` David Newall
2007-10-18 20:47         ` Al Viro [this message]
2007-10-19  2:57           ` David Newall
2007-10-19  5:37             ` Al Viro
2007-10-18 16:30 ` David Newall
2007-10-18 16:33   ` David Newall
2007-10-18 16:53     ` David Newall

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