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From: Jason Uhlenkott <jasonuhl@jasonuhl.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Mike Waychison <mikew@google.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 1/1] Drop CAP_SYS_RAWIO requirement for FIBMAP
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:55:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071026215550.GA27037@aurum.uhlenkott.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071026012217.4cc30390@the-village.bc.nu>

On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 01:22:17 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:06:40 -0700
> Mike Waychison <mikew@google.com> wrote:
> 
> > Remove the need for having CAP_SYS_RAWIO when doing a FIBMAP call on an open file descriptor.
> > 
> > It would be nice to allow users to have permission to see where their data is landing on disk, and there really isn't a good reason to keep them from getting at this information.
> 
> Historically this was done because people felt it was more secure. It
> also allows you to make some deductions about other activities on the
> disk but thats probably only a concern for very very security crazed
> compartmentalised boxes
> 
> Also historically at least FIBMAP could be abused to crash the system.
> Now if you can verify that has been fixed I have no problem, but given
> that I can find no record of that being fixed it would be wise to audit
> it first and review Chris Evans and other reports about what occurs when
> FIBMAP is passed random block numbers.
> 
> FIBMAP has another problem for this general use as well - it takes an int
> but the block number can now be bigger for very large files on 32bit.

Additionally, ext3_bmap() has this to say about it:

        if (EXT3_I(inode)->i_state & EXT3_STATE_JDATA) {
                /*
                 * This is a REALLY heavyweight approach, but the use of
                 * bmap on dirty files is expected to be extremely rare:
                 * only if we run lilo or swapon on a freshly made file
                 * do we expect this to happen.
                 *
                 * (bmap requires CAP_SYS_RAWIO so this does not
                 * represent an unprivileged user DOS attack --- we'd be
                 * in trouble if mortal users could trigger this path at
                 * will.)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-26 22:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-25 23:06 [patch 1/1] Drop CAP_SYS_RAWIO requirement for FIBMAP Mike Waychison
2007-10-26  0:22 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-26  0:35   ` Mike Waychison
2007-10-26  0:43     ` Alan Cox
2007-10-26 21:55   ` Jason Uhlenkott [this message]
2007-10-26 21:59     ` Mike Waychison
2007-10-26 22:40       ` Jason Uhlenkott
2007-10-26 22:53         ` Mike Waychison
2007-10-29 19:08 ` Pavel Machek
2007-11-01 14:51   ` Ric Wheeler

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