From: Mark Fasheh <mark.fasheh@oracle.com>
To: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com, hch@infradead.org,
Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>,
Subject: Re: [RFC] add FIEMAP ioctl to efficiently map file allocation
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:11:26 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071030001126.GD28607@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071029221302.GD3042@webber.adilger.int>
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 04:13:02PM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> On Oct 29, 2007 13:57 -0700, Mark Fasheh wrote:
> > Thanks for posting this. I believe that an interface such as FIEMAP
> > would be very useful to Ocfs2 as well. (I added ocfs2-devel to the e-mail)
>
> I tried to make it as Lustre-agnostic as possible...
IMHO, your description succeeded at that. I'm hoping that the final patch
can have mostly generic code, like FIBMAP does today.
> > > #define FIEMAP_EXTENT_LAST 0x00000020 /* last extent in the file */
> > > #define FIEMAP_EXTENT_EOF 0x00000100 /* fm_start + fm_len beyond EOF*/
> >
> > Is "EOF" here considering "beyond i_size" or "beyond allocation"?
>
> _EOF == beyond i_size.
> _LAST == last extent in the file.
>
> In most cases FIEMAP_EXTENT_EOF will be set at the same time as
> FIEMAP_EXTENT_LAST, but in case of e.g. prealloc beyond i_size the
> EOF flag may be set on one or more earlier extents.
Oh, ok great - I was primarily looking for a way to say "there's allocation
past i_size" and it looks like we have it.
> > > FIEMAP_EXTENT_NO_DIRECT means data cannot be directly accessed (maybe
> > > encrypted, compressed, etc.)
> >
> > Would it be valid to use FIEMAP_EXTENT_NO_DIRECT for marking in-inode data?
> > Btrfs, Ocfs2, and Gfs2 pack small amounts of user data directly in inode
> > blocks.
>
> Hmm, but part of the issue would be how to request the extra data, and
> what offset it would be given? One could, for example, use negative
> offsets to represent metadata or something, or add a FIEMAP_EXTENT_META
> or similar, I hadn't given that much thought.
Well, fe_offset and fe_length are already expressed in bytes, so we could
just put the byte offset to where the inline data starts in there. fe_length
is just used as the length allocated for inline-data.
If fe_offset is required to be block aligned, then we could add a field to
express an offset within the block where data would be found - say
'fe_data_start_offset'. In the non-inline case, we could guarantee that
fe_data_start_offset is zero. That way software which doesn't want to care
whether something is inline-data (for example, a backup program) or not
could just blidly add it to fe_offset before looking at the data.
Regardless, I think we also want to explicitely flag this:
#define FIEMAP_EXTENT_DATA_IN_INODE 0x00000400 /* extent data is stored in inode block */
I'm going to pretend that I completely understand reiserfs tail-packing and
say that my approaches above looks like they could work for that case too.
We'd want to add a seperate flag for tail packed data though.
> The other issue is that I'd like to get the basics of the API in place
> before it gets too complex. We can always add functionality with more
> FIEMAP_FLAG_* (whether in the INCOMPAT range or not, depending on what is
> being done).
Sure, but I think whatever goes upstream should be able to handle this case
- there's file systems in use _today_ which put data in inode blocks and
pack file tails.
Thanks,
--Mark
--
Mark Fasheh
Senior Software Developer, Oracle
mark.fasheh@oracle.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-30 0:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-12 11:05 [RFC] add FIEMAP ioctl to efficiently map file allocation Andreas Dilger
2007-04-12 11:22 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-04-13 4:01 ` Andreas Dilger
2007-04-13 7:46 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-04-13 14:53 ` Jeff Mahoney
2007-04-13 1:33 ` Nicholas Miell
2007-04-13 10:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-13 11:38 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-04-13 18:55 ` Nicholas Miell
2007-04-16 8:01 ` Timothy Shimmin
2007-04-18 23:03 ` Andreas Dilger
2007-04-16 11:22 ` David Chinner
2007-04-19 0:21 ` Andreas Dilger
2007-04-19 1:54 ` David Chinner
2007-04-30 22:44 ` Andreas Dilger
2007-05-01 4:22 ` David Chinner
2007-05-01 4:39 ` Nicholas Miell
2007-05-01 14:20 ` David Chinner
2007-05-01 18:46 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-05-02 9:15 ` David Chinner
2007-05-02 9:36 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-05-02 10:57 ` David Chinner
2007-05-02 11:17 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-05-03 7:49 ` Andreas Dilger
2007-05-03 8:23 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-05-02 9:45 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-05-01 22:32 ` Andreas Dilger
2007-05-01 18:37 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-05-02 0:06 ` David Chinner
2007-05-02 8:16 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-10-29 19:45 ` Andreas Dilger
2007-10-29 20:57 ` Mark Fasheh
2007-10-29 22:13 ` Andreas Dilger
2007-10-29 22:29 ` Andreas Dilger
2007-10-29 22:40 ` Mark Fasheh
2007-10-30 0:11 ` Mark Fasheh [this message]
2007-10-30 0:25 ` Andreas Dilger
2007-10-29 22:25 ` David Chinner
2007-05-01 22:30 ` Andreas Dilger
2007-05-02 2:26 ` David Chinner
2007-05-02 8:23 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-05-02 8:30 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-05-02 9:48 ` David Chinner
2007-05-02 9:56 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-04-19 6:23 ` Timothy Shimmin
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