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From: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>
To: Zach Brown <zach.brown@oracle.com>
Cc: Badari Pulavarty <pbadari@gmail.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] fs io with struct page instead of iovecs
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 07:44:57 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071107204457.GL995458@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4731EF8D.5090701@oracle.com>

On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 09:02:05AM -0800, Zach Brown wrote:
> Badari Pulavarty wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 17:43 -0800, Zach Brown wrote:
> >> At the FS meeting at LCE there was some talk of doing O_DIRECT writes from the
> >> kernel with pages instead of with iovecs.  T
> > 
> > Why ? Whats the use case ?
> 
> Well, I think there's a few:
> 
> There are existing callers which hold a kmap() across ->write, which
> isn't great.  ecryptfs() does this.  That's mentioned in the patch
> series.  Arguably loopback should be using this instead of copying some
> fs paths and trying to call aop methods directly.
> 
> I seem to remember Christoph and David having stories of knfsd folks in
> SGI wanting to do O_DIRECT writes from knfsd?  (If not, *I* kind of want
> to, after rolling some patches to align net rx descriptors :)).

The main reason is to remove the serialised writer problem when multiple
clients are writing to the one file. With XFS and direct I/O, we can have
multiple concurrent writers to the one file and have it scale rather than be
limited to what a single cpu holding the i_mutex can do....

> Lustre shows us that there is a point at which you can't saturate your
> network and storage if your cpu is copying all the data.

Buy more CPUs ;)

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
Principal Engineer
SGI Australian Software Group

      reply	other threads:[~2007-11-07 20:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-07  1:43 [RFC] fs io with struct page instead of iovecs Zach Brown
2007-11-07  1:43 ` [PATCH 1/4] struct rwmem: an abstraction of the memory argument to read/write Zach Brown
2007-11-07  1:43   ` [PATCH 2/4] dio: use rwmem to work with r/w memory arguments Zach Brown
2007-11-07  1:43     ` [PATCH 3/4] add rwmem type backed by pages Zach Brown
2007-11-07  1:43       ` [PATCH 4/4] add dio interface for page/offset/len tuples Zach Brown
2007-11-07 16:50 ` [RFC] fs io with struct page instead of iovecs Badari Pulavarty
2007-11-07 17:02   ` Zach Brown
2007-11-07 20:44     ` David Chinner [this message]

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