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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, mhalcrow@us.ibm.com,
	phillip@hellewell.homeip.net, sfrench@samba.org
Subject: Re: [rfc][patch 3/5] afs: new aops
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:18:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071114151825.GA20973@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <30440.1195042723@redhat.com>

On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:18:43PM +0000, David Howells wrote:
> Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de> wrote:
> 
> > > The problem is that the code called assumes that the struct page *
> > > argument points to a single page, not an array of pages as would
> > > presumably be the case if PAGE_CACHE_SIZE > PAGE_SIZE.
> > 
> > Incorrect. Christoph's patch for example does this by using compound pages.
> > Now I personally don't like the patch or see the point in PAGE_CACHE_SIZE /
> > PAGE_SIZE distinction, but I'm just telling you what the convention is. There
> > is no point you arguing against it, that's simply how it is.
> 
> No!  You are wrong.  I wrote the AFS code.  I *know* it can only deal with

No I'm talking about core code. In core code, the PAGE_CACHE_SIZE is
for page cache struct pages. Single struct pages (not page arrays).
Take a look at generic mapping read or something.

There is nothing to deal with page arrays there either, but that's simply
the convention.


> > > So: you may not change the assertion unless you also fix the lower
> > > functions.
> > 
> > I won't change the assertion, because you haven't been following said
> > convention, so just changing it in one place is stupider than not changing
> > it at all, but not for the reason cited.
> 
> The convention is not precisely clear.  Just grep for PAGE_CACHE_SIZE in
> Documentation/.  It's only mentioned twice, and in neither case does it give
> any information about what PAGE_CACHE_SIZE is, what it represents, or where it
> applies.  Therefore it's an ill-defined concept.
> 
> If you look in Documentation/filesystems/vfs.txt, you'll see that it almost
> always talks about 'pages'.  It only mentions 'pagecache pages' once - in the
> description of write_begin(), but it's not clear whether that means anything.

Documentation is the opposite of convention ;) Look in mm/.

 
> However, I've now noted that I need to fix my code, so just keep the assertion
> for now and I'll fix my code to handle multipage blocks.

I'm not saying you need to do that. Leave it at PAGE_SIZE, really it
doesn't matter that much at present. This has just blown out of proportion.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-14 15:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-12  7:12 [rfc][patches] remove ->prepare_write Nick Piggin
2007-11-12  7:13 ` [rfc][patch 1/5] ecryptfs new aops Nick Piggin
2007-11-12  7:14 ` [rfc][patch 2/5] cifs: " Nick Piggin
2007-11-12  7:14 ` [rfc][patch 3/5] afs: " Nick Piggin
2007-11-12  7:20 ` [rfc][patch 4/5] rd: rewrite rd Nick Piggin
2007-11-12  7:23 ` [rfc][patch 5/5] remove prepare_write Nick Piggin
2007-11-12 15:29 ` [rfc][patch 3/5] afs: new aops David Howells
2007-11-13  0:15   ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-13  0:30   ` David Howells
2007-11-13  0:44     ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-13 10:56     ` David Howells
2007-11-14  4:24       ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-14 12:18       ` David Howells
2007-11-14 15:18         ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-11-14 15:57         ` David Howells
2007-11-14 21:32           ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-15 12:15           ` David Howells
2007-11-15 21:37             ` Nick Piggin

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